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06-20-2008, 06:37 AM
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I don't believe anyone has the right to control another person, I agree.
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Every law on the books, all 5 million of them control you. They tell you what you can do, they tell you what you can't do, and a very large number of them control your body specifically.
Making an argument against laws that control other people is meaningless unless you are arguing that all law should be struck down and we revert back to the law of the jungle.
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06-20-2008, 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by PaleRider
Every law on the books, all 5 million of them control you. They tell you what you can do, they tell you what you can't do, and a very large number of them control your body specifically.
Making an argument against laws that control other people is meaningless unless you are arguing that all law should be struck down and we revert back to the law of the jungle.
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Abortion laws don't tell us what to do with our bodies, these laws give women the freedom to choose.
No one has the right to tell me what I can and cannot do with my body.
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06-20-2008, 06:44 AM
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No one has the right to tell me what I can and cannot do with my body.[/font]
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But there are a large number of laws on the books that do exactly that.
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06-20-2008, 06:46 AM
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But there are a large number of laws on the books that do exactly that.
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You are right, but abortion laws involve my body. I can't take illegal drugs because it is harmful to my body. In banning them, the Government is considering my health and the welfare of others. In abortion laws, the Government considers my right to choose.
There are many laws that affect me, but none so much as Roe v Wade. That law allows me to choose to terminate a pregnancy. No other law gives me that right.
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06-20-2008, 06:55 AM
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You are right, but abortion laws involve my body. I can't take illegal drugs because it is harmful to my body. In banning them, the Government is considering my health and the welfare of others. In abortion laws, the Government considers my right to choose.
There are many laws that affect me, but none so much as Roe v Wade. That law allows me to choose to terminate a pregnancy. No other law gives me that right.
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But is the fetus in your body your body?
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06-20-2008, 02:16 PM
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Oh, and you are a poor judge of who wins this argument, Pale. If you would like to take it to the formal debate level, with judges to decide... bring it on. Though, I'm about to get very busy again. But I've made all the arguments I need to make on the subject of Constitutionality to win this debate, in the impartial eyes of others. Or at least a balanced tribunal.
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OK. I'll play. When do we start and how do we decide on judges because frankly, most of the pro choicers here don't have the brains of a donkey.
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06-20-2008, 02:23 PM
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OK. I'll play. When do we start and how do we decide on judges because frankly, most of the pro choicers here don't have the brains of a donkey.
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Meaning you won't accept the decision once it's rendered. I was thinking you pick one, I'll pick one the two of them can pick one they agree to be impartial.
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06-20-2008, 08:36 PM
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Meaning you won't accept the decision once it's rendered. I was thinking you pick one, I'll pick one the two of them can pick one they agree to be impartial.
But I'm not wasting my time with this if you are going to play the same denial games you've been playing here for three years.
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Are you backing out already?
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06-20-2008, 09:35 PM
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Are you backing out already?
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Look, my time is limited. I know your rep. I've read most of the threads you dominate. I know your MO.
Will you admit defeat if it comes to a decision against you?
Of course you won't... so why bother?
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06-20-2008, 09:39 PM
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But is the fetus in your body your body?
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Yes and no. The fetus is attached to my body, which makes it part of my body. At the same time, it is a separate being - because it has it's own DNA and blood type. It's an attached separate being, if you will, but the fact it must stay attached to the mother for any length of time means it technically isn't separate at all.
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