The ONLY FACT that is evident on this thread is the fact that ALL liberals present the "fake" concern for life and humanitarian concerns.....That they always lay claim of, that is, UNLESS IT COMES INTO CONFLICT WITH THEIR PERSONAL, POLITICAL, OR SOCIAL CONCERNS OF SELF INDULGENCE. Thus, they present "THE FETUS"....as a useless entity and the sole property of the FEMINIST NAZI, to let live or die as she sees fit...of course all based upon HER PERSONAL FREEDOM, with no concern for the life that she wishes to control on only her whim.

Fetus...a word that was practically non-existent until a "politically correct" movement of feminism decided to go all out in a media blitz (just like the nazi's they are) and decided to "dehumanize" the fact of a WOMAN WITH CHILD....that child now is always referred to as only a non example of life...a fetus, it simply rolls off the lip easier than CHILD...when someone is considering MURDER of that child. As I have said many times before. Anyone can point to fact after fact that points to the hypocrisy of the female nazi...that in the mannerism of fascism wants to control the life of another for their own selfish reasons.

Any way one wants to semantically spin the facts. A human life is being taken in the act of premeditation, and if that same act, if it were would be taken only weeks later...could be defined as nothing short of MURDER. Thus, anyone that propagates such as the abortion of an innocent CHILD...is nothing short of EVIL, just as proven by history and Fascist Nazism.....The life of the innocents are being sacrificed on a daily basic on the alter of a political movement known as FEMINISM. Yet, even Hitler did not have so many innocent souls on his hands...as he was not evil enough to sacrifice Children on the Satanic Alter of worshiping ONE'S OWN SELFISH DESIRES. BD

Fathers for Life

Do feel free to bring foreward a single argument by me that is in any way "crazy" and by all means, explain why it is crazy.

You have provided no facts that even begin to put my arguments into question. The only "facts" that I can recall you ever producing had to do with the ability of unborns to feel pain and even that information is disputed by credible sources. Aside from that, you completely failed to show in any way that the ability to feel pain is what makes us either alive, or human beings.

I can understand how I might irritate you. I have had the same feelings towards others on occasion who had more powerful arguments than my own. Being a thinking person, however, when someone presents a more powerful argument than mine, I accept the argument and alter my views to reflect that position. I am not hopelessly locked into any position that I am unable to defend.

And yet when challenged, you are unable to bring a single lie foreward.

I am still waiting for you to bring a single bit of "science of today" here that suggests that the offspring of two human beings is ever anything but a human being. If it is there, you should be able to bring it to prove your point. You don't, because no credible scientist would suggest that the offspring of human beings is ever anything other than a human being.

Tired of having their beliefs shown to be false? I can see how people would get tired of that. What I don't see, however, is why once a belief is shown unequivocally to be false, one would continue to hold said belief.

Do feel free to bring a single point that I have argued foreward that has been proven wrong. You claim that I have lost and that others have proved me wrong, it should be cinch to prove if it is true. Prove it.

Clearly, you don't know what a commie is if you believe that I am one.

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"It's not alive, It's not alive, It's not alive. Because I said it isnt', there's your proof jerk." ...lexi

"As far as your logical fallicy shit - shove it. I am a woman."...naturemomma

She is still a liar and like you, still unable to put together a coherent argument in defense of her position and like you, still relying on ad hominem attacks against me instead of rational argument.

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"It's not alive, It's not alive, It's not alive. Because I said it isnt', there's your proof jerk." ...lexi

"As far as your logical fallicy shit - shove it. I am a woman."...naturemomma

Are you so unfamiliar with the Constitution? Are you really unaware that two amendments address this issue explicitly and say that no one shall be denied their life without due process of the law?

5th Amendment to the Constitution

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

14th Amendment to the Constitution

Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

I don't make things up.

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"It's not alive, It's not alive, It's not alive. Because I said it isnt', there's your proof jerk." ...lexi

"As far as your logical fallicy shit - shove it. I am a woman."...naturemomma

The "fool" can present no ration to their rantings...as they live in a world controlled by EMOTION. Thus, one can simply get ready to have their ears burnt with a non stop stream of emotionalism. You have defended your position well, as anyone with the slightest capacity to have cognation to reason can witness. WEAR THEIR EMOTIONAL INSULTS AS THE BADGE OF HONOR that you have earned. As clearly demonstrated...you have them stumped, as they have been reduced to the liberal trait of emotional display. I will give you a well done. As its been like witnessing someone bringing a knife to a gun battle. But, they are not really responsible....they only PARROT what others tell them. BD

So the proper question is not if the fetus is a human, or alive, but is it a person? Aside from that, due process was completed my the Supreme Court. The action deemed legal, end of story.

But, really, what is a person?

Parrot? Tell me when you have ever heard the argument I have made on the constitutionality of abortion...

Show me a link.

I'm simply arguing the point, I'm not in bed with it. I don't aprove of abortion myself. But in the interest of intellectual honesty, and being fairly well versed in the genesis of our protected rights, I felt it needed to be put out there in the hopes that others would learn to avoid this argument and develop ones that actually have a chance of winning.

damn intellectually honest people. Just imagine how much better the world would be without them. Everything all black and white. No grays. Partisans free to roam and join in kumbiah my lord with their opponents, all blissfully happy that there are no more people throwing cold water on their kindling rants.

If that were the end of the story....Blacks would still be wearing "visible shackles" instead of the mental ropes that liberalism has them harnessed in, with the "entitlement" carrot being continually waved in front of them. Women, would not have the right to vote. Strong drink would still be banned. The war on human rights is still very much being engaged, on a daily basis, by the true defenders thereof. BD

ya know... it's hard to take your parroting argument seriously when you use the word liberal so... well... liberally. It's like it's been branded onto your greymatter.