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04-04-2008, 06:37 AM
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So can you show in any way that an unborn is a kitten and not a human being? Or is this the best argument you have in support of your pro choice position?
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All fetus's start out looking like each other, if we kill other animals because they are in the way of our "progress", then surely we are no better than animals ourselves. After all isn't that what Darwin was trying to say, we Humans are nothing more than savage mongels. 
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04-04-2008, 06:43 AM
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All fetus's start out looking like each other, if we kill other animals because they are in the way of our "progress", then surely we are no better than animals ourselves. After all isn't that what Darwin was trying to say, we Humans are nothing more than savage mongels. 
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The fact that you can't tell one from the other is your shortcoming, not the child's. If your mind is so small that you can't wrap it around the concept that one is a human being, and one is a kitten, then you have my pity. I bet you went to public school.
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04-04-2008, 06:44 AM
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Amnesty International, what a fucken joke.
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So you are one of these folks who has no argument, you are just here to piss and moan and mewl. Maybe you can provide some documentation that states that Iraq under saddam was an extention of Disneyland.
Feel free to prove your point. Hell, feel free to prove anything because so far, you haven't.
By the way, discounting information based on nothing but the source is a very childish logical fallacy known as a circumstantial ad hominem. It is generally perpetrated by those who have absolutely no argument at all.
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04-04-2008, 06:49 AM
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The fact that you can't tell one from the other is your shortcoming, not the child's. If your mind is so small that you can't wrap it around the concept that one is a human being, and one is a kitten, then you have my pity. I bet you went to public school.
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You obiviously didn't study biology, have a look at the stages of mammalian life, especially before they start to take on the traits of their parents.
 
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04-04-2008, 07:00 AM
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So you are one of these folks who has no argument, you are just here to piss and moan and mewl. Maybe you can provide some documentation that states that Iraq under saddam was an extention of Disneyland.
Feel free to prove your point. Hell, feel free to prove anything because so far, you haven't.
By the way, discounting information based on nothing but the source is a very childish logical fallacy known as a circumstantial ad hominem. It is generally perpetrated by those who have absolutely no argument at all.
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Disneyland, now that got me laughing!!
Anyways horseshit mate, its simple, the victors always hold the upper hand and write the history. So to prove the opposite of your aggument is nigh on impossible. If I had the time and patients and know how I could find such information. If there is such information out there, its well hidden.
So at this stage I will conceed defeat, on my original post to you. At this time anyways. 
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04-04-2008, 07:01 AM
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Not on the Fetus's though.  
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04-04-2008, 11:22 AM
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You obiviously didn't study biology, have a look at the stages of mammalian life, especially before they start to take on the traits of their parents.
 
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I am a biochemist. Want to talk science? Lets go.
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Not on the Fetus's though
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You lost that one before you even got started but if you want to carry this conversation to its inevetable conclusion, you can start by providing some credible science that states that the offspring of two human beings is ever anything but a human being.
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04-05-2008, 02:41 AM
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I am a biochemist. Want to talk science? Lets go.
You lost that one before you even got started but if you want to carry this conversation to its inevetable conclusion, you can start by providing some credible science that states that the offspring of two human beings is ever anything but a human being.
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Going to reply, just trying to figure out how to paste a picture on my reply. 
By the way Walerider, I am not pro abortion, all life is scared. 
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04-05-2008, 02:53 AM
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I am a biochemist. Want to talk science? Lets go.
You lost that one before you even got started but if you want to carry this conversation to its inevetable conclusion, you can start by providing some credible science that states that the offspring of two human beings is ever anything but a human being.
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If you are a Bio-chemist, then you would know that the stages of embyronic development, have you noticed how we all look the same?.
I was going to post a picture of the stages of development from the egg to the birth.
Thanks Cat it worked, bless you.
As I was saying Pale rider, isn't it funny how we all look alike when we start out.
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04-05-2008, 03:21 AM
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All life has the right to exist, anyone who thinks otherwise is not human or animal. 
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