My personal experience's dealing with the whole abortion thing

wyatt earp · #1 (**permalink**) 03-29-2008, 11:17 AM

would just like to post my personal experience's dealing with the abortion issue, Did I do the right thing or did I do the wrong thing?

1. In 1983, I was around 17 and got my girlfriend pregnant, we were both young I was still in High school, She brought up the thought of getting an abortion, But I remember at the time thinking to myself, good then I won't have to pay child support, because I knew I was not going to get married and 17, But what I said out loud was it is your choice and I will deal with the responsibilities.
I broke up with here real fast, yes I was being an selfish asshole, but I was scared too. I felt if I was not around may bee she will put them up for adoption and I never told her about my plan.
Well my asshole selfish plan worked because after they were born, (I was not even there when they were born, I will regret that to the day I die). she had them for a few month's and decided to give them up for adoption. I signed the papers and I thought that was the end of it.
But I found out she never signed and I get a phone call 6 years latter from the kid's new Mom asking me to fly out to L.A. to testify in court because my ex-girl friend wanted the twin boys back (Yes, they were twins). So I had to go there and see my two boys when they were 6 years old and not even be able to tell them I was there dad, They won the custody battle and got to keep the boy's.

2. In 1995 after my ex-wife and I got married, she found out she was pregnant, A few month's went by and I was out of town on business and I got a phone call from her, saying I had to get home A.S.A.P. she was upset so I arrived the next morning.
She told me the Doctor called and wanted to see us, So we went there and he told us some bad news's, He said that there might be a problem with the Baby, he sent out the Medical records to Northern U. in Chicago (or something like that, he sent them to some called dumb ass "Experts").
He told us the baby might have Down syndrome, or be a midget, and we should consider getting an abortion.
I am thinking to myself, What kind of fucking doctor are you? I thought you are supposed to be saving life's instead of suggesting people to kill them?.
I could see by ex-wife's eye's that she was scared and the doctor left us alone and she asked what should we do?, I am like "It is not my body it is yours, But If it was me I would tell the Doctor to go fuck himself and have the baby any way's, who the fuck cares if it might be a midget or have down syndrome? I said to her, "I can not force you to have the baby, nor can I force you to have an abortion, I will not try to persuade you one way or the other, All I can do is support your decision."
So I guess by me saying that the case was settled, she decided to have the child.
When I was there in the delivery room and the baby was born, The doctor looks the baby over and says to me, (his exact words) " I don't know what the hell those guy's were talking about, this baby is fine". She in now a healthy 12 year old.
So from that point on, I will never ever belive a doctor again, I mean I won't put 100% trust in a quack, because sometimes you never know what can happen tomorrow.

Lexi · #2 (**permalink**) 03-29-2008, 03:37 PM

You did what you thought was right at the time and that's all anyone can do. We all have things in our lives that we wish we would have done differently but that's how life is, no ones perfect. At least you gave the woman the choice instead of demanding she do it your way.

Nice ending to the second one , there are a lot of quacks out there. Second opinions are always important.

wow · #3 (**permalink**) 03-29-2008, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Lexi

You did what you thought was right at the time and that's all anyone can do. We all have things in our lives that we wish we would have done differently but that's how life is, no ones perfect. At least you gave the woman the choice instead of demanding she do it your way.

Nice ending to the second one , there are a lot of quacks out there. Second opinions are always important.

I think you miss the point of his story.

fedup2 · #4 (**permalink**) 03-29-2008, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by wyatt earp

would just like to post my personal experience's dealing with the abortion issue, Did I do the right thing or did I do the wrong thing?

1. In 1983, I was around 17 and got my girlfriend pregnant, we were both young I was still in High school, She brought up the thought of getting an abortion, But I remember at the time thinking to myself, good then I won't have to pay child support, because I knew I was not going to get married and 17, But what I said out loud was it is your choice and I will deal with the responsibilities.
I broke up with here real fast, yes I was being an selfish asshole, but I was scared too. I felt if I was not around may bee she will put them up for adoption and I never told her about my plan.
Well my asshole selfish plan worked because after they were born, (I was not even there when they were born, I will regret that to the day I die). she had them for a few month's and decided to give them up for adoption. I signed the papers and I thought that was the end of it.
But I found out she never signed and I get a phone call 6 years latter from the kid's new Mom asking me to fly out to L.A. to testify in court because my ex-girl friend wanted the twin boys back (Yes, they were twins). So I had to go there and see my two boys when they were 6 years old and not even be able to tell them I was there dad, They won the custody battle and got to keep the boy's.

2. In 1995 after my ex-wife and I got married, she found out she was pregnant, A few month's went by and I was out of town on business and I got a phone call from her, saying I had to get home A.S.A.P. she was upset so I arrived the next morning.
She told me the Doctor called and wanted to see us, So we went there and he told us some bad news's, He said that there might be a problem with the Baby, he sent out the Medical records to Northern U. in Chicago (or something like that, he sent them to some called dumb ass "Experts").
He told us the baby might have Down syndrome, or be a midget, and we should consider getting an abortion.
I am thinking to myself, What kind of fucking doctor are you? I thought you are supposed to be saving life's instead of suggesting people to kill them?.
I could see by ex-wife's eye's that she was scared and the doctor left us alone and she asked what should we do?, I am like "It is not my body it is yours, But If it was me I would tell the Doctor to go fuck himself and have the baby any way's, who the fuck cares if it might be a midget or have down syndrome? I said to her, "I can not force you to have the baby, nor can I force you to have an abortion, I will not try to persuade you one way or the other, All I can do is support your decision."
So I guess by me saying that the case was settled, she decided to have the child.
When I was there in the delivery room and the baby was born, The doctor looks the baby over and says to me, (his exact words) " I don't know what the hell those guy's were talking about, this baby is fine". She in now a healthy 12 year old.
So from that point on, I will never ever belive a doctor again, I mean I won't put 100% trust in a quack, because sometimes you never know what can happen tomorrow.

Your decisions, at 17 weren't any different then that of most 17 year old "kids". At 17, I don't think many people are ready for the job of being a parent. I can't imagine how tough it was to see your kids at 6yrs old.... but it has to be some comfort that this family loved them enough to fight hard to keep them.

On the issue of the Down Syndrome test... I didn't take that test for any of my three kids. My mother worked for an OBGYN and told me that their are so many false positives. She told me that if I wouldn't end the pregnancy regardless of the results, why test and why worry the entire time if it "was" positive, which is probably what you and your wife did the whole time.

I can only imagine how many woman ended their pregnancy because of a false positive - and yet, they still do the testing!

Lexi · #5 (**permalink**) 03-29-2008, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by wow

I think you miss the point of his story.

What makes you think that?

Themaniacster · #6 (**permalink**) 03-29-2008, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Lexi

You did what you thought was right at the time and that's all anyone can do. We all have things in our lives that we wish we would have done differently but that's how life is, no ones perfect. At least you gave the woman the choice instead of demanding she do it your way.

Nice ending to the second one , there are a lot of quacks out there. Second opinions are always important.

Yes, it's a womans choice to brutally murder her baby, but it's not the right choice and it doesn't make you a quack to believe killing a child is immoral.

Lexi · #7 (**permalink**) 03-29-2008, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Themaniacster

Yes, it's a womans choice to brutally murder her baby, but it's not the right choice and it doesn't make you a quack to believe killing a child is immoral.

And your point is??? You're supposed to be answering Wyatt, not me dude...