Palerider,

Do you believe that a woman who has been raped should be forced to carry the rapist's baby to term?

Yes I know that it is only a very small % of the cases, but I still want to know your answer.

Can you make a reasonable argument for killing a child for the crimes of his or her father?

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"It's not alive, It's not alive, It's not alive. Because I said it isnt', there's your proof jerk." ...lexi

"As far as your logical fallicy shit - shove it. I am a woman."...naturemomma

Sure, a woman should not be forced to carry the rapists child.

Yes, the child will be killed, however in that the fetus cannot survive independently of the mother, the mother should have the right to decide whether or not she wants to keep it.

Think if your wife or daughter was raped, would you seriously tell them to bear the child?

I asked for a rational argument for killing a child for the crimes of its father. Do you have one?

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"It's not alive, It's not alive, It's not alive. Because I said it isnt', there's your proof jerk." ...lexi

"As far as your logical fallicy shit - shove it. I am a woman."...naturemomma

Yes, the fetus's entire existed is predicated on an illegal and immoral act, therefore it is a greater sin to force the woman to carry the fetus to term than to kill the fetus.

Listen, I asked a simple question. If you would insist your wife or daughter to carry the child to term, then we can't argue. We have fundamentally differing assumptions.

The child's existence is predicated on sperm fertilizing an egg. Is the child guilty of any illegal or immoral act? And is the greater sin killing an innocent for the crimes of another or not killing an innocent for the crimes of another?

I would ask my wife or daughter the same question I am asking you. Can you give a rational argument for killing a child for the crime of its father? The child isn't "just" the child of the rapist. The child is also the child of the mother. To suggest that the child is only the rapist's child is to miss a fundamental truth in the equation.

Can you, or can you not offer a rational argument for killing a child for the crimes of its father? Or is this simply an emotional issue for you and you find yourself unable to bring your intellect to bear on it?

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"It's not alive, It's not alive, It's not alive. Because I said it isnt', there's your proof jerk." ...lexi

"As far as your logical fallicy shit - shove it. I am a woman."...naturemomma

Yes the child is guilty of an illegal act. The process of becoming pregnant is not a simple scientific process. It involves humans. As it involves humans, consent is an important part of the process. The fetus has attached itself to the woman and is drawing energy from the woman without the woman having a say in the matter. That is theft by any definition. The only remedy to the situation is to eliminate the attachment.

The fetus is not innocent in this matter, it is benefitting from an illegal act. In law, the idea that the remedy should return the victim to the state BEFORE the illegal act is well established, hence the fetus' life is forfeitted.

Shall we now move on to morality? So you would force your wife or daughter to carry a rapist's child to term?

I have noticed that you have yet to answer this question.

Damn Tak, he keeps asking you the same question and you keep dodging it. I see a trend. Then, you finely come up with an answer and you claim pregnancy is theft? Could you be a bigger pile of dumb shit? This is over for you, you lose this thread, pathetic.

Uhm, I asked the question first that he hasn't answered, and I have answered him.

You know just because I don't give the answer he or you wants, or just because you are so ape-shit dumb not to understand it, doesn't mean that I am not answering him.

no, yeah, you're a genius. Babies are STEALING from their mothers when they impregnate them. fucking brilliant!!!


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