Things that have substance are reality and "creating your own reality" can not change things that have reality. A situation, or sequence of events for example is certainly subject to interpretation and your interpretation may very well be the only thing you know about that situation or sequence of events.

For example, consider a hit and run, a drive by shooting, an assault or any other such event. If you have 20 witnesses to such a thing, you may well have 20 different stories about what exactly happened. If, however, you have video and audio recordings from all possible angles of the event, you will have a record of the reality of the event. Compare that record of the event to the stories you get and you will see whose reality closely relates to the universe as it actually is (for that event) and whose reality does not.

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"It's not alive, It's not alive, It's not alive. Because I said it isnt', there's your proof jerk." ...lexi

"As far as your logical fallicy shit - shove it. I am a woman."...naturemomma

We as a species kill off our own kind DAILY. If you are for ANY killing AT ALL then you have no right to deny others of their own way to kill. And if you like our society, and your against any killing at all, then untill the majority of people are totally against all killing theres gona be some killin'.

There is no point in debating human life or a clump of cells. Who cares, for or against there is no doubt it would be a person some day. Hell I'm stil;l against fertalizing barren people. on the other hand if she gets pregnant....oops, quess we're have'n a baby.

And leave your god on the doorstep. 90% of the time when using that little gem of an arguement it falls on deaf ears and turns into a freedom of religion thing, which nooen reall allows to happen by shoving it in everyone elses face anyway.

.....oops sorry, rant....I'll sit down now.

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Yes he is a creep and he's personally attacked me many times . Pale ass doesn't agree with anyone,not even you because he thinks he's God and no one is above him. There is no way you can have a discussion with someone that is impossible. And since when did you get on the moral bandwagon, I seem to remember a personal attack you sent me in a PM plus the other ones in defense of the creep.

[quote=Themaniacster;. Your stupidity makes me laugh because it's funny, then it makes me cry because it's sad. It's like a good movie, really.[/QUOTE]


And your a genius, now that's really funny. Go ahead and have a good cry, that's what all pansys do.

And your full of as usual.. What do you have a BS or Ph.D??? Or neither..

We make our own reality and thank God mine is not the same as yours... You are not worth having a discussion with..

That is a logical fallacy known as a false dilemma. Each sort of killing must be taken and examined on its own merits. The suggestion that a woman may abort a child because you may kill a thug who is threatening your life is one of the worst defenses of abortion that I have seen so far, including lexi's.

If it were just "a clump of cells" then you might have an argument. Calling a human being a clump of cells, however, doesn't change it into something less than a human being any more than calling a black person a nigger changes them into something else. Using words in an attempt to dehumanize a human being is despicable whether you are a racist, an ageist, or any other sort of bigot you care to name.

Which part of my argument is religious? Another logical fallacy on your part. Seems no part of your argument is valid? Surprise, surprise, surprise.

Well at least you recognize that none of it constituted any sort of actual argument.

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"It's not alive, It's not alive, It's not alive. Because I said it isnt', there's your proof jerk." ...lexi

"As far as your logical fallicy shit - shove it. I am a woman."...naturemomma

A MS as if it matters in this discussion.

I invited you to explain in some detail what creating your own reality means to you and asked you to give some concrete examples of one creating one's own reality. In typical fashion, you haven't delivered because the entire subject is over your head. You are simply parrotting "create your own reality" after suburbanite because it sounded like something you could use as an argument. Well, use it as an argument. Explain how you can change a physical being by creating your own reality.

And suggesting that someone is not worth having a discussion with is your typical method of running away when your inability to speak on a genuine intellectual level is about to be exposed.

So explain yourself or run away.

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"It's not alive, It's not alive, It's not alive. Because I said it isnt', there's your proof jerk." ...lexi

"As far as your logical fallicy shit - shove it. I am a woman."...naturemomma

When did I personally attack you? I called you a liar, but then provided proof in your own words (several times) that you are a liar so that doesn't constitute a personal attack. Of course you have called me a liar many times but to date, have not provided any proof of a lie on my part which does constitute a personal attack on your part.

And I have called you stupid but have gone on to demonstrate that beyond any reasonable doubt.

And for your information, I will agree with most anyone who can put together a more powerful argument than my own. If they can prove that I am wrong, then, not being a stupid person, I modify my views to reflect the more powerful argument. That is how I came to be pro life.

You want me to change back to pro choice? Easy, just provide a more powerful argument than my own. Provide a concrete example of changing a physical entity from one thing into another by the application of a "created reality" and then you have an argument.

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"It's not alive, It's not alive, It's not alive. Because I said it isnt', there's your proof jerk." ...lexi

"As far as your logical fallicy shit - shove it. I am a woman."...naturemomma

I've already explained that but of course in your head what my opinion is dosn't matter because you are the only one that knows anything about anything. I know what my reality is every day in my life , I live it. What's your everyday reality and how can you even think that everyone else must live according to your reality?

You say Reality isn't a "thing", of course it isn't a "thing" you can see like a tree or flower. It's Life and we all live it. Although there is a description of the word reality in every dictionary I've ever looked at, maybe you should check it out.

I never run away, I just ignore people I don't want to have anymore discussions with or don't like. We're at that point now

You personally attack me every time you post since you have my name on your signature with a comment that is not mine along with all the other "idiot"and "stupid" remarks and all the others. That's a personal attack just the same as me calling you a creep is.
NO, I don't want you to change back to pro choice, we dont' need nutcases like you.
NO , you didn't prove it, you just thought you did and of course if Paleone thinks he's right that's absolute.

But no one has a more powerful argument than the Paleone , do they???