OK, Oh Smart one, who does create our reality?? Does that come from the scientific facts you spew out too.

You don't know the real meaning of the word so why not just admit it and get over yourself.

So you believe that we do create our own realities? OK, then why do you oppose abortion? If we create our own reality, then every pregnancy is the reality created by the pregnant woman. If she creates her reality, and she is pregnant, then she must want to be pregnant and why allow her to kill that which she wanted?

Why oppose rape? A rape victim creates her own reality and in the reality that she created, she is raped. Since she creates her reality, she must have wanted to experience rape.

If each of us creates our own reality, then war victims, the homeless, the mentally retarded, and the handicapped must want what they get. Otherwise, why not create a reality of sunshine and rainbows? If the story that you tell yourself about reality closely matches actual reality, then you certainly could create the illusion for yourself that you create your own reality. If however, the story you tell yourself about reality doesn't match actual reality, then you see a world that is complete chaos. You get raped, you get pregnant when you didn't plan on it, you get disabled, you have a mental illness, you live on the street and all manner of other awful things that can happen to anyone at any time. Just when you feel like you are in control, the universe has a way of stepping up, smacking you in the face, and explaining in no uncertain terms that you are not creating your own reality.

You aren't smart enough for this discussion lexi. It can only end badly for you. But feel free to explain why there are victims of rape, war, incest, dissability, mental illness, abuse, etc if we do create our own realities.

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"It's not alive, It's not alive, It's not alive. Because I said it isnt', there's your proof jerk." ...lexi

"As far as your logical fallicy shit - shove it. I am a woman."...naturemomma

Thats the strangest way of describing reality ive ever seen. Nothing real about that comment. What are you ,some retard from the outback..

Not my description. Lexi (and others) seem to be under the impression that we create our own reality and whatever they say, is. I was merely pointing out that the idea that one create's one's own reality is shot full of holes and doesn't amount to any sort of proper philosophy at all. The "you create your own reality" movement is little more than a two bit new age religion. The latest and greatest in a long line of two bit new age religions.

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"It's not alive, It's not alive, It's not alive. Because I said it isnt', there's your proof jerk." ...lexi

"As far as your logical fallicy shit - shove it. I am a woman."...naturemomma

We do create our own reality, what the fucks the matter with your brain asshole, did all your brain cells just dry up die.

Feel free to defend that idea and by all means provide some concrete examples. You will excuse me, but your say so doesn't carry much weight.

I would like at least one example of changing the physical properties of a thing by creating a different reality for yourself.

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"It's not alive, It's not alive, It's not alive. Because I said it isnt', there's your proof jerk." ...lexi

"As far as your logical fallicy shit - shove it. I am a woman."...naturemomma

This, my friend, is the best point you've made so far! You're right, she got pregnant, she is responsible for her will or her lack of will. But, I ask, why confine her choices? Where is the reasoning behind that prerogative? I do, however, agree with you that all women are responsible for their own pregnancies.

you're over exaggerating the process I'm talking about. Also, I dont know anything about lexi and the other people jumping on my band wagon, but let me tell you, these people could nor did think of these ideas, they are simply agreeing with me because they'll use anything they can to prove their points about abortion. My personal interest is philosophical integrity. I could care less about abortions.
Now, it isn't a magical wishing well, say one thing and everything changes. Its about redescription. Its a process which takes place in which one re-interprets the meaning of anything, a phrase, an idea, a word, a story and assuming its accepted that NEW interpretation (the metaphor) becomes literal. Its happened before, many things we knew were once metaphors, which would have no basis in reality. For example, shaved pussies. In the youth culture of America, the ideal pussy is shaven. It was not always so, but after the crabs epidemic, it became a sign of cleanliness. That, then, began to replace the beauty standard

Of course. I have talked a great deal to lexi and she simply doesn't have the intellectual wattage to develop an idea like creating your own reality on her own. She actually started a thread called "what does the word reality mean to you" in which she has made the comment that she didn't get the idea from you. Of course, she can offer no explanation of what the idea means or begin to comprehend what you mean by it, but as you say, she will glom onto anything that she sees as a way to deny the reality of what unborns are.

You can't change water into C6H12 no matter how many people you get to join you in the redefinition. It is always going to be composed of three atoms, two of which is made of a single proton and a single electron and another atom which is composed of eight protons, eight neutrons, and eight electrons and even if you use a different word to describe protons neutrons and electrons, the physical reality of them will not change, only the mental picture you use to visualize them.

Changes of personal preference do not represent changes in physical reality. Even changes in societal preference do not represent actual changes of physical reality.

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"It's not alive, It's not alive, It's not alive. Because I said it isnt', there's your proof jerk." ...lexi

"As far as your logical fallicy shit - shove it. I am a woman."...naturemomma

i understand your concern, its based specifically on one thing, you think there is something called reality which we percieve. It makes sense to think this way, so I can't fault you for it, and most people often think this way. I will say, however, that there is nothing substantive to "reality". Perceivable reality, philosophically, is subject to many dilemmas. And whereas the elemental compounds won't change when the word is reinterpreted, it doesn't mean its wrong to reinterpret it. Reinterpretation is not a tool to turn lead into gold, it isn't alchemy. Its specifically used to help us adapt to our environment. If we need to change more things to adapt better is it not then our imperative? And will, at that time, it not be seen as reality?