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04-18-2008, 11:11 AM
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You can BUY one. You might not get a blue-eyed aryan, but there are good deals on infants out there.
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04-18-2008, 11:15 AM
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I looked to science for a definiton of human and defer to medical and biological science on the issue,
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>>>That's really too bad, because you are looking in the wrong place. Science can no more provide a definition of "human" than it can provide a definition of "god".
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04-18-2008, 12:13 PM
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So do the people of the bible marmalade .
But palerider doesn't care about facts or religion. In fact palerider doesn't care if babies starve to death after they are born. Palerider is some kind of psycho with a agenda. probably hopes he can make sure enough kids are born to be able to use the poor little things for spare parts for his own decrepit body.
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Of course you are completely unable to defend your postion so you attack me personally. What happens after a child is born has absolutely nothing to do with what it is before it is born. The two things are completely unrelated.
Your attack on me is evidence of the inherent weakness of your postion.
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04-18-2008, 12:14 PM
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Well said george.
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He made a dishonest statement. It is unsurprising that a liar like you would congratulate him on it.
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04-18-2008, 12:22 PM
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>>>Let me see if I have this straight. The world should NOT agree with facts??? It just gets curiouser and curiouser.
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Still waiting on some evidence of this fact. It it is a fact that the offspring of two human beings can at some time be something other than a human being, it shouldn't be very difficult to provide credible evidence of it. Where is it?
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Maybe it is the wind, but I always thought facts were something to be accepted.
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Saying a thing doesn't make it a fact george. I say that we are living human beings from the time we are concieved. To support that statement let me offer a bit of proof.
"Every time a sperm cell and ovum unite a new human being is created which is alive and will continue to live unless its death is brought about by some specific condition."E.L. Potter and J.M. Craig, PATHOLOGY OF THE FETUS AND THE INFANT, 3d ed. (Chicago: Year Book Medical Publishers)
I can provide plenty more if this one example is not sufficient. It is from a medical textbook used in medical schools around the world.
OK. You claim that we are not human beings from the time we are concieved. Lets see some credible science that states as much. We both know, of course, that no such evidence will be coming from you because it is not a fact that unborns are something other than human beings.
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04-18-2008, 12:25 PM
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>>>That's really too bad, because you are looking in the wrong place. Science can no more provide a definition of "human" than it can provide a definition of "god".
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Human is a taxonomical classification and human beings are biological creatures. God is a matter of faith. If you really believe that science is unable to determine what is or is not a human being, then you are at least as stupid as lexi abd you have a snowball's chance in hell of making any sort of rational argument. Neither the fabrication of facts, nor the denial of them constitutes a valid argument and so far, fabrication and denial have all you have managed.
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04-18-2008, 04:11 PM
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Science is not a barometer for what human is and when it begins, just what a few scientists "think" does not make it so. Only the highest power has that knowledge and that isn't any scientist.
Cells are cells and there are many different kinds, and just when the cells become humans is something know only to God. No scientist will ever be able to make that claim without there being some doubt in their minds, whether they admit it or not.
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04-18-2008, 04:55 PM
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Human is a taxonomical classification and human beings are biological creatures. God is a matter of faith. If you really believe that science is unable to determine what is or is not a human being, then you are at least as stupid as lexi abd you have a snowball's chance in hell of making any sort of rational argument. Neither the fabrication of facts, nor the denial of them constitutes a valid argument and so far, fabrication and denial have all you have managed.
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I see Einstein is still calling me stupid. In case you didn't notice I took "your red comment" off my signature, couldn't stand to see your name on my posts anymore. To bad you have such a fixation on me but that's your problem not mine..
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04-18-2008, 05:41 PM
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Science is not a barometer for what human is and when it begins, just what a few scientists "think" does not make it so. Only the highest power has that knowledge and that isn't any scientist.
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A few? You idiot. If it is a few then surely you can provide some commentary from the "majority" who say that the offspring of two human beings is something other than a human being.
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Cells are cells and there are many different kinds, and just when the cells become humans is something know only to God. No scientist will ever be able to make that claim without there being some doubt in their minds, whether they admit it or not.
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So since you have no idea when they become human beings, how is it that you justify killing them?
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04-18-2008, 05:43 PM
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I see Einstein is still calling me stupid. In case you didn't notice I took "your red comment" off my signature, couldn't stand to see your name on my posts anymore. To bad you have such a fixation on me but that's your problem not mine..
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The one I use is an accurate reflection of how stupid you are. The one that you used was an accurate description of what a liar you are. It worked out fine for me either way.
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