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03-23-2008, 06:56 PM
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Right back at ya Maniac... Guess that keeps us both at the same level..  |
Who says I permentaly sank? That was just an example of your usual post.
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03-23-2008, 06:57 PM
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Yeah, and your a faggot.  |
Well, look at that! You spelled it correctly that time. Sorry to disappoint you, but I've already said that I wasn't your father.
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03-23-2008, 06:57 PM
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Who says I permentaly sank? That was just an example of your usual post.
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you were never above the water Maniac... duhhhh 
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03-23-2008, 07:12 PM
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you were never above the water Maniac... duhhhh |
Maniac this and maniac that. It is sad to see someone with a substandard vocabulary overuse a word because they just don't know any others. Here, let me help you out with some alternatives.
section 8, nutcase, psycho, kook, schizoid, fanatic, zealot, freak, wacko, psychopath, madman, lunatic, dogmatist, sickie, fiend, bedlamite, lunatic, fruitcake and screwball.
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03-23-2008, 07:59 PM
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But that's just the point. This is not about keeping government out of private lives. This is about protecting our young. Tell me, who speaks for those who are aborted each day, month, and year? Please tell me also how you can rationalize 1.2+ million abortions a year as being justified? Do the math... that is over 40 million abortions since 1970.
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yes it is about keeping the government and others out of our personal lives. if you don't like abortion, don't have one and work to stop unplanned pregnancies and make things better for pregnant women. don't tell people what they can and can't do with their own person.
and I asked you if you could just examine that part of the abotion debate and not the others ones. was this your way of saying 'no'?
the women who carried those fetus speak for them. and they say that the best option for everyone involved was to end the pregnancy. they all have their own personal reasons and its no one's place to judge those reasons.
thats how I rationalize those numbers.
I also rationalize them by saying I personally find them to be far too high and we need more sex ed (actualy comprehensive sex ed), more birth control, better treatment for pregnant women (namely the younger ones), better quality of life for people so we feel confident that bringing a child into this world isn't the worst thing for them, better foster care, more and better adoption, ect
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Originally Posted by PaleRider
I have asked you to name 3 things you can do with no interference from the government at either the local, state, or federal level without going into the most mundane aspects of your life. Thus far, you have not been able to do it. no I'm not going to. I'm not even going to think about it and post an answer That is because the government controls every aspect of your life so tellint you that you can't kill your child would not be an unusauall intrusion on your life.
Glad to see that you are finally admitting the facts. You claim that killing the child is the woman's choice and we should leave her alone with her decision. Most killing is the personal choice of the killer. A man decides to rob a convenience store. He takes a gun, gets the money, and kills the clerk. He made a personal choice. Should we leave him alone because it was a personal choice?
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its not alive to be killed. its not a person and it has no feelings, thus no one gets hurt during an abortion unless the person performing it doesn't know what they are doing.
that man hurt others, stole what isn't his, and committed a crime.
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No Lexi, you are, infact, a Democrat.
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issues like abotion are not confined to any one group. and further more there are many third parties out there that vary greatly in terms of pro and anti- choice standing.
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I think everyone has sunk a bit during these past few pages...
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03-24-2008, 12:33 AM
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1. yes it is about keeping the government and others out of our personal lives.
2. if you don't like abortion, don't have one and work to stop unplanned pregnancies and make things better for pregnant women.
3. don't tell people what they can and can't do with their own person.
4. and I asked you if you could just examine that part of the abotion debate and not the others ones. was this your way of saying 'no'?
5. the women who carried those fetus speak for them. and they say that the best option for everyone involved was to end the pregnancy. they all have their own personal reasons and its no one's place to judge those reasons.
thats how I rationalize those numbers.
6. I also rationalize them by saying I personally find them to be far too high and we need more sex ed (actualy comprehensive sex ed), more birth control, better treatment for pregnant women (namely the younger ones), better quality of life for people so we feel confident that bringing a child into this world isn't the worst thing for them, better foster care, more and better adoption, ect
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1. Its personal so long as the decision made only impacts the mother. Once the fetus begins to develop, the mother has no real say anymore. Any attempt to abort should be made after a doctor has ascertained that the mother's life is in danger, the fetus is severely disfigured/retarded, or... in extreme cases, the mother has been raped.
2. Totally bogus. The mother should keep her legs closed until she's ready to conceive. Its her responsibility to prepare her life to welcome in her child... not the government's or society at large.
3. We're not. If a person wants to off themselves, let 'em. That decision is their own. When they want to murder a fetus, it becomes society's business.
4. The only real debate is if abortion is murder. Everything else is just superfluous bullshit at negating one's own responsibility for their unborn child.
5. Total bullshit. If a woman doesn't want to have children, then she should keep her legs closed. You do not value human life. You only value selfish actions that terminate society's most innocent... the unborn. Grow up.
6. Great! Then spend your time trying to get those women to take personal responsibility for themselves. Society doesn't own them a damned thing as far as a nice cushy life, etc. Everyone must fend for themselves. There is no free ride.
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03-24-2008, 02:46 AM
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I also rationalize them by saying I personally find them to be far too high and we need more sex ed (actualy comprehensive sex ed), more birth control, better treatment for pregnant women (namely the younger ones), better quality of life for people so we feel confident that bringing a child into this world isn't the worst thing for them, better foster care, more and better adoption, ect
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Doesn't this just take the fuckin' cake? On the one hand, you say "it is about keeping the government and others out of our personal lives", then you turn around and suggest massive intrusion in 'personal lives' with all kinds of social programs????? Do you even think about what you post?
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03-24-2008, 11:26 AM
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Do you even think about what you post?
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Having spoken to her at length, I can confidently say that she "thinks" very little. She, like most pro choicers, is all emotion and her arguments appeal to emotion rather than reason.
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03-24-2008, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by PaleRider
Maniac this and maniac that. It is sad to see someone with a substandard vocabulary overuse a word because they just don't know any others. Here, let me help you out with some alternatives.
section 8, nutcase, psycho, kook, schizoid, fanatic, zealot, freak, wacko, psychopath, madman, lunatic, dogmatist, sickie, fiend, bedlamite, lunatic, fruitcake and screwball.
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I would have to say this is one of your better posts.  Really enjoyed it.
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03-24-2008, 12:07 PM
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Having spoken to her at length, I can confidently say that she "thinks" very little. She, like most pro choicers, is all emotion and her arguments appeal to emotion rather than reason.
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She's an idiot, I agree.
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