Actually I'm a little bored with all this so think I'll just ignore the abortion threads for a while. It really doesn't matter what me or anyone else says on this subject, the world will keep on turning and people will keep on living their lives just like they are now. Women will get abortions if that's the right thing for their lives no matter what laws are passed. Haven't they done this since time began?

Of course there will still be those that think they have a right to interfere in others lives but with all their interference they will never succeed in telling a woman what she can or can't do with the body God gave her. Women fought to have the right to vote and be equal to men and if anyone thinks they will give it up now they're living in a fantasy world.

If abortion is outlawed there will still be just as many abortions. The only difference will be that more deaths will occur than do now. What pro lifers never seem to put out there is that pro choice people are not for abortion but the womans right to choose. I for one will choose to live my live exactly as I feel the need to . I'm a woman and my rights to my body will never be taken away from me, by anyone..

Again I ask, was the plastic model an accurate rendition of the fetus???? Would you rather that it had actually been a dead child?

__________________
Its better to have fussed and crabbed then never to have fussed at all - Lucy

No, what I am saying is that the picture of a baby doll you posted was a fully formed plastic baby.

Much different than what a 10-12 week old fetus looks like as can been seen by the medical pictures I posted.

Any idiot with eyes can see that pale rider.

Are you writing in brail by the way palerider?

Since I'm still here I'll answer this one but anymore you'll have to refer to the one that put the plastic model on.

No , it was not an acurate rendition of the fetus, much more defined than one at that age would have been. My problem with it was that the person that put it on never once said "this is a plastic model" of what a baby would look like at this age . If you're going to put something on then state exactly what it is, don't try to fool people with false objects and scare tactics.

If anyone's going to put something on and say the scientific facts are that this is exactly what it looks like it better damn sure be the real thing..

I never said fetuses ought to die. Your illogic supersedes your brain not allowing for rational thought. .

What I have always said and will continue to say is the following.

I would love to know that another abortion was never to be performed in this world.

But being a logical person who knows my bible I know that is not going to happen till Christ comes to stop it. Women were having abortions when Christ walked the earth and they will be till he comes to end all sin and wicked ways in the world.

Its not going to stop the bible says the world will just get more sinful until Christs second coming as bad as in the days of Noah. ..................That should explain well.

And I know that God is not allowing billions of humans to be killed before they are even born. God does not send the soul till we are born.

That is a good thing because if he did fertility clinics would have hundreds of tiny frozen souls waiting to be scientific experiments or throw out in the trash.

What I have said is that abortion is wrong. But it will not stop. Just as murder , divorce , nor starving children will ever stop. None of this will stop till Christ returns and ends it for good.

The scientific fact is medical science can now mix Human DNA with rats and other animals.

They say they watch for signs of humaness and are going to destroy them if they detect any signs of humaness.

The Catholic church has said that animals mixed with humans should be allowed to live already.

When are you people going to stop your crap?

Will you stop when your daughter marries a man mixed with horse DNA and your grand children all have beautiful manes and can ride you to the store?

What makes us humans is not the flesh. It is the soul sent from God inside us that makes us human.

We should immediately suspend all laws pertaining to robbery and murder. People have been robbing and murdering each other since Christ walked the earth. Since we can never stop it it makes no sense to penalize those who commit these crimes nor is it in anyone's interest to tell people murder and robbery are wrong and should not be allowed to happen.

Makes as much sense as any other post the resident false prophet has made in my opinion

__________________
Its better to have fussed and crabbed then never to have fussed at all - Lucy

Well, its easy to see by looking at the pictures palerider meant to intentionally deceive as I said anybody with eyes can tell that.


[quote=PaleRider;347761]Well, you have day 5 to 12 covered. A trimester, however, lasts 3 months. Here is what the child looks like between week 10 and 12

We have been robbing and murdering since way before then. It is clear that no law stops those who are disposed to break the law from breaking it if they want so why have any law at all. Clearly, none of them work.

Except to punish those who do it anyway and get caught that is.

__________________
"It's not alive, It's not alive, It's not alive. Because I said it isnt', there's your proof jerk." ...lexi

"As far as your logical fallicy shit - shove it. I am a woman."...naturemomma

No, you totally illogical emotional thinking man.

Abortion is the law of this land, just as we have laws against murder and rape, we have a law that states women can have abortions.

I would like to think women do not do so lightly and we can do some things to bring the number of abortions down.

But your never going to stop them. That is why they made a law saying they were legal.

So you illogical emotional mess that calls himself Nate, can you see the difference?

It is against the law to murder and rape.

The law says women can get a abortion .

You can work to change laws, but the last I heard 70% of the country supports a womans right to choose this herself.

So good luck with changing the laws, it will not happen. The politicians know this, they just parade the issue out every election like they do gay marriage and gun control so the illogical emotional thinkers like you Nate will vote for them. They know they don't have a prayer of changing the laws. But they figure if people are stupid enough to believe them why not use it for political gain.