Abortion and the Morning After Pill

PaleRider · #**101** (**permalink**) 03-14-2008, 01:57 PM

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List one lie I have told pale rider?

You accused me of making emotional arguments. I asked that you bring forward a single point made by me that is an appeal to emotion. You did not because you could not and yet, you continued to claim I am making an emotional argument.

[quote=wvpeach;338369] oops I forgot that would be asking you to answer a question truthfully something you seem incapable of doing.

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I am a servant of the Lord Jesus christ and a beloved daughter of God. I am lucky that way.

You could have fooled me. You are a liar and I believe that you serve the father of lies while believing that you serve God. I believe you are no more than a tool.

wvpeach · #**102** (**permalink**) 03-14-2008, 01:59 PM

Your right cost should never be a factor in keeping humans alive.

So tell us pale rider that means you favor higher taxes and perserving humans no matter the cost..........................Right?

That means your not one of those people saying my tax money should not go to help the poor .......................Right?

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The issue isn't about taxes, or what the cost is lexi. If cost is really an issue to you, and you don't believe that we should be supporting unwanted people, then why aren't you in favor of going about killing post natals who obviously aren't wanted, and who are having bad lives, and who aren't contributing anything to society?

Clearly, you aren't really conserned with what banning abortion will cost and your hypocricy is obvious.

This issue is over denying human beings their most basic right and you have yet to prove in even the smallest way that unborns at any stage of development are not human beings.

PaleRider · #**103** (**permalink**) 03-14-2008, 01:59 PM

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Animals do the same thing , God designed it that way.

doesn't mean they have a soul. or are human

I have asked for proof of a soul more than once from you. As of yet, you haven't delivered.

As to studying with you, I think I will pass. You are a dishonest person and I have no interest in studying anything sacred with a liar.

PaleRider · #**104** (**permalink**) 03-14-2008, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by wvpeach

Your right cost should never be a factor in keeping humans alive.

So tell us pale rider that means you favor higher taxes and perserving humans no matter the cost..........................Right?

That means your not one of those people saying my tax money should not go to help the poor .......................Right?

You are incapable of actually discussing the core issue of abortion aren't you?

At the heart of all of this is the issue of whether unborns are living human beings. If they are, then any argument you care to make for killing them must also apply to every other living human being. If they are not living human beings, then the issue is moot as they have no human rights.

Can you prove that they are not living human beings?

wvpeach · #**105** (**permalink**) 03-14-2008, 02:02 PM

Well lets see I have given you science a plenty. And Scripture from the word of God.

what have you given pale rider? I'll answer for you since I know you won't answer questions, Pale rider has given us his own words.

List 1 lie I have told pale rider, just one.

[quote=PaleRider;338385]You accused me of making emotional arguments. I asked that you bring forward a single point made by me that is an appeal to emotion. You did not because you could not and yet, you continued to claim I am making an emotional argument.

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oops I forgot that would be asking you to answer a question truthfully something you seem incapable of doing.

You could have fooled me. You are a liar and I believe that you serve the father of lies while believing that you serve God. I believe you are no more than a tool.

wvpeach · #**106** (**permalink**) 03-14-2008, 02:03 PM

Lots of things are alive that doesn't mean they are human or have a soul sent from God........................That is the core issue pale rider.

A fact that seems to escape you.

But have a good weekend I have company coming and don't have time just now.

But God willing I will be back.

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You are incapable of actually discussing the core issue of abortion aren't you?

At the heart of all of this is the issue of whether unborns are living human beings. If they are, then any argument you care to make for killing them must also apply to every other living human being. If they are not living human beings, then the issue is moot as they have no human rights.

Can you prove that they are not living human beings?

PaleRider · #**107** (**permalink**) 03-14-2008, 02:05 PM

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Lots of things are alive that doesn't mean they are human or have a soul sent from God........................That is the core issue pale rider.

We are talking about human beings though. Can you prove that the offspring of two human beings is ever anything but a human being.

And once again, I am not surprised in the least that you are running away from the discussion.

wvpeach · #**108** (**permalink**) 03-14-2008, 02:06 PM

What? i have posted on ensoulment all over this forum.

The bible clearly says we have a soul pale rider.

or don't you believe the bible?

if you don't believe God and the bible then you a lost cause. Really no point in trying to talk sense or God's truth to you. No wonder your so lost and confused pale rider.

let me clue you in all knowledge and wisdom men ever need to know comes from the bible. get that fact down and you are started on the right path.

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I have asked for proof of a soul more than once from you. As of yet, you haven't delivered.

As to studying with you, I think I will pass. You are a dishonest person and I have no interest in studying anything sacred with a liar.

wvpeach · #**109** (**permalink**) 03-14-2008, 02:08 PM

I have company coming, and things to do this weekend. Since the truth is not in you pale rider it does not surprise me you would try to twist that fact like you do every other fact.

Being alive does not mean a being has a soul sent from God.

having a soul sent from God is what makes us humans pale rider.

Or don't you believe in God? Seems you don't believe in souls either.

Well, you don't have to believe the bible says we have souls. So we have souls.

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We are talking about human beings though. Can you prove that the offspring of two human beings is ever anything but a human being.

And once again, I am not surprised in the least that you are running away from the discussion.

PaleRider · #**110** (**permalink**) 03-14-2008, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by wvpeach

What? i have posted on ensoulment all over this forum.

The bible clearly says we have a soul pale rider.

I asked for proof. Clearly you have none. A biblical argument constitues faith, not proof. Proof is necessary in a court of law which is where this issue will ultimately be decided.

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if you don't believe God and the bible then you a lost cause. Really no point in trying to talk sense or God's truth to you. No wonder your so lost and confused pale rider.

So you admit that you are incapable of defending your position with any sort of actual proof and can only argue opinion with someone who is also arguing opinion as opposed to fact?

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let me clue you in all knowledge and wisdom men ever need to know comes from the bible. get that fact down and you are started on the right path.

Apparently not enough for you to adequately prove your position.

Once again, can you prove that the offspring of two human beings is ever anything but a human being?