I would like to start a thread about solutions...

No matter the opinion, pro-life, pro-choice. I would like to talk solutions. I and a few others, have enjoyed the common sense talk of the argument. That is what this thread should pertain to. So, hijackers, move on...

As women, we should look to lower the numbers of abortions, and teach our daughters and sisters respect. Respect for their own bodies and their own minds. I would like this thread to be about that as well.

I think if we, a few people at AWE can't manage to come up with solutions on this crisis, then how do we expect that our government will? If you are pro-life, this benefits saving a life. If you are pro-choice, this benefits saving a daughter or sister pain. Abortion is answer for many, but it is always a painful choice for those who make it. I would like to find ways to empower young girls and women, so they never have to face that choice.

One of the things I have done, I have a "young girls historian" club at my daughters school. We meet bi-beekly and discuss women who changed history. I came up with the idea and proposed it to the teacher and she loved it. Next year I will do begin it with my youngest daughter's class.

This really empowers little girls. They begin to see that they don't "need" men to change their world. They love themselves and don't seek that love elsewhere. This is key. Catching them early is also key. Many of them didn't know there were so many women in history that changed so much (not even the moms).

Knowledge is power, I think this is where we start.

I welcome everyones comments....

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Nature, nice thread…
The name of the program I spoke of in the other thread was “Life Skill” & yes they were very thorough in all areas of sex ed. My oldest daughter will soon be 15 & we’re actually ok talking about these things. It’s probably due to her laying down inhibitions w/ her peers prior to our talks. It’s hard to be cool & be mom, they know this as much as we do.

Awareness definitely has to start early in life. The truth is, that not all girls will have a fair shake in the parent department, so this program that you initiated is great. I could see something of that context taken to many levels.

There are so many obstacle that accompany these issues, & so much to discuss.

Where do you start? You can reach the children, but you will have to reach the women as well.

I’d be interested to know:
What type of counseling woman have access to, prior to & after having an abortion?
Is counseling required by law?
Can you make an appointment in the morning & have the procedure that same day?
Or
Is there a waiting period?

Also, your thoughts on should there be a legal limit to how many procedures a woman can have?

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Go Right,

Me and my husband have discussed this many times. I believe in a womans right to choose, but at what cost? I must admit I post a lot of stuff for the sake of the argument. I admit that. But I really do believe in personal responsibilty and "self love" if you will. Truth is, I think women faught hard for equality and some even died for the cause. I think as women we serve no justice to their memory, by abusing a right they faught to afford us. Then the rights become an issue and questionable.

My personal belief has always been that a fetus is a baby. I could care less at what age. The science does nothing for me. I have been pregnant and I have felt life inside my body. I know I would not have an abortion, but whatever my personal beliefs on the matter, I side with women to have the right to choose. Just because I believe something doesn't mean it's right. I am a person who is open to knew ideas and I usually see both sides of any argument.

So, I decided to start with my kids and maybe have some effect on other kids as well. Like you said, starting young is key.

The women, I have no idea what to do with them. Is it too late to save them? I don't know. I think there should be some type of legislation, but then eventually what would that lead to? Let me think about this one and I'll get back to you. My husband is also rushing me off the internet because we have a book fair at the beach to attend

Thanks for responding Go Right. Seems there are few of us who actually want to solve anything.

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Until you can respect others, self respect is nothing. In fact, if you aren't able to fully respect others and their right to live, your self respect amounts to noting more and nothing less than narcissim.

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"As far as your logical fallicy shit - shove it. I am a woman."...naturemomma

Question. When you here people say things like:

It's not alive. It's not alive. It's not alive. There's your proof you jerk.

Why do you not make any attempt to at least correct thier misconception. If you know beyond any doubt that it is alive, why would you stand by while someone makes an argument based on what you know to be a falsehood?

You are talking about personal responsibility, and self respect here. What moral machinery is it that allows you to remain silent when someone on your side makes the claim that unborns aren't alive and actually argue against the point when a pro choicer makes it and maintain your self respect?

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"It's not alive, It's not alive, It's not alive. Because I said it isnt', there's your proof jerk." ...lexi

"As far as your logical fallicy shit - shove it. I am a woman."...naturemomma

I believe we'll have to leave the personal beliefs outside the door, as it may create an atmosphere of hostility from passers by.

Having said that, this is a Solutions thread, so can we at least take choice & life off of the table for the time being?

I asked the questions that I did simply because I’m illiterate when it comes to the process aspect of abortions, as I feel a lot of people are.

Basically I’d like to know if women are aware of their options & who’s responsible (if any) to tell these women this?

I’ll do a little research & get back to you on those.

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Pale, I know you are passionate about this issues, as am I.

But, I do realize that we would have to work together despite out personal beliefs about this issue, or even feelings for another poster.

Please, join us if you have any ideas.

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