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02-23-2008, 09:35 PM
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Artist hanged herself after aborting her twins
Her suicide note read: "I told everyone I didn't want to do it, even at the hospital. I was frightened, now it is too late. I died when my babies died. I want to be with my babies: they need me, no-one else does."
Artist hanged herself after aborting her twins - Telegraph
My personal opinion.
The boyfriend was un-supportive, she was frightened, didn't receive the proper councilling, had the abortion, regretted it, and unfortunately took her own life.
Men will never know or understand what it is like to miscarry or have an abortion.
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02-23-2008, 09:53 PM
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She should have thought about the twins needing her before she killed them!
Talk about poor choices. 
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02-24-2008, 04:32 AM
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this is why abortion is a woman's issue.
no woman should be forced or coerced to terminate a pregnancy
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no woman should be forced or coerced to carry a pregnancy to term.
whenever you force a woman to do something with her body that she doesn't want to do only bad things come from it.
I know of women forced to abort and women forced to have children they never wanted- both cases end very badly for those women.
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02-24-2008, 07:22 AM
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02-24-2008, 11:05 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hurricane
She should have thought about the twins needing her before she killed them!
Talk about poor choices. 
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Hurricane; she didn't want the abortion, but probably in her state of mind went through it anyway. She didn't have any support. The guilt the boyfriend will forever live with will be incredible. He not only killed his children, but the mother of his children. Who would want to spend their life with a monster like that? 
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02-24-2008, 11:43 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by oceanbreeze
Hurricane; she didn't want the abortion, but probably in her state of mind went through it anyway. She didn't have any support. The guilt the boyfriend will forever live with will be incredible. He not only killed his children, but the mother of his children. Who would want to spend their life with a monster like that? 
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A lot of couples split up after the woman becomes unexpectedly pregnant. All the women don't go out have abortions and kill themselves.
Sounds to me, in this case, the woman was mentally unstable to begin with. If I was the boyfriend, I'd feel very little guilt if any. After all, the woman was an adult not a child.
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02-24-2008, 11:55 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Upton
A lot of couples split up after the woman becomes unexpectedly pregnant. All the women don't go out have abortions and kill themselves.
Sounds to me, in this case, the woman was mentally unstable to begin with. If I was the boyfriend, I'd feel very little guilt if any. After all, the woman was an adult not a child.
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Yes, they split up because the man couldn't handle the responsiblities of an unexpected pregnancy.
I had a friend go through the same thing. He ignored the child for the first 2 years and then decided to marry. ZERO RESPECT for him.
Most men do not belong in the abortion debate.
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02-24-2008, 01:12 PM
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Women who have had abortions are the fastest growing suicide group in the country.
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02-24-2008, 01:40 PM
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People say only women have the right to have a debate about abortion. Wrong. I have a cousin (23), he was male, and his girlfreind had an accidental prenancy, he beleived abortions were immoral, and he would've stayed with the girlfreind and the baby if the girlfreind kept it, but instead, the girlfreind went and had an abortion, ignoring the evidence that babies can think and feel when they're very young fetus's,
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02-24-2008, 03:15 PM
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Quote:
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People say only women have the right to have a debate about abortion. Wrong. I have a cousin (23), he was male, and his girlfreind had an accidental prenancy, he beleived abortions were immoral, and he would've stayed with the girlfreind and the baby if the girlfreind kept it, but instead, the girlfreind went and had an abortion, ignoring the evidence that babies can think and feel when they're very young fetus's,
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The key word is MOST. I know my husband would've felt the same way as your cousin.
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