Have you always been alive?

GoRightAndYouCan'tGoWrong · #**221** (**permalink**) 03-08-2008, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Lexi

What sickens me the most are the ones the are already born and being abused , unwanted and murdered.

The Pro Lifers don't give a

what happens to the babies after their born, as long as their agendas are met.

Now that's caring??

I think not, that's control..

Yea, Lexi these things have been happening to children for centuries. And guess what, this is still happening even w/ 3500+ abortions a day. So what is your point????

Abortion serves no greater purpose!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And in case you are living on another planet, our agendas aren't being met, abortion is still legal.....

PaleRider · #**222** (**permalink**) 03-08-2008, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Rooster

We would lose more of the unborn if women had illegal abortions. You know that, so cut the BS.

The child dies whether the abortion is legal or not. Since most people will obey the law, exactly what logic makes you think that more children will be killed? Even if every woman who would like an abortion disregards the law and has one anyway, there will be no more children killed than before abortion was outlawed.

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Originally Posted by Rooster

The key words here are "that we come into being". When is that, sir? If, as you say, life begins at conception, then are the companies that make pills and other birth control drvices... like the one that is taken monthly(?) to prevent conception, really killing babies or not? Then that is ok? It's before conception isn't it? Before life, if as you state, life starts, at conception?

If roe is overturned on the basis of established personhood of the unborn, any drug, or device that has an abortificient effect will naturally be banned as it would be a violation of the child's 14th amendment rights.

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By the way, these birth control devices..aren't they all from people in your field of endeavor, biochemistry?

Pharmachology. And medical devices mostly originate from medicine.

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Finally, get your banner and parade in front of legitimate abortion clinics...shoot some doctors, get into fist fights...and by all means , tell them you're a successful biochemist...you never know, it might help.

Nope. I don't play that game. I donate my time and money towards the legal fight. And you were the one that brought my job into the discussion so stop crying because I told you what I do.

Themaniacster · #**223** (**permalink**) 03-09-2008, 12:09 AM

Well then we'll just make it a law that you are obligated to take two laxatives every morning, how does that sound to you?

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Well then we'll make a law to say, if you annoy or are inconveinent to anybody, that person is allowed to kill you, no trail, nothing, you are forced into a machine that rips you limb to limb until killing you by ripping your head off.

Themaniacster · #**224** (**permalink**) 03-09-2008, 12:10 AM

trial* not trail

Lexi · #**225** (**permalink**) 03-09-2008, 05:43 AM

Lexi · #**226** (**permalink**) 03-09-2008, 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by GoRightAndYouCan'tGoWrong

Yea, Lexi these things have been happening to children for centuries. And guess what, this is still happening even w/ 3500+ abortions a day. So what is your point????

Abortion serves no greater purpose!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And in case you are living on another planet, our agendas aren't being met, abortion is still legal.....

And your point is????

PaleRider · #**227** (**permalink**) 03-09-2008, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Lexi

And your point is????

The point is that the things you say will be the result of banning abortion are already happening. They were happening before roe when an abortion wasn't so easy to get and they continued to happen after roe when anyone could get an abortion. The point is, that particular line of thought is just one more logical fallacy on your part.

Lexi · #**228** (**permalink**) 03-09-2008, 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by PaleRider

The point is that the things you say will be the result of banning abortion are already happening. They were happening before roe when an abortion wasn't so easy to get and they continued to happen after roe when anyone could get an abortion. The point is, that particular line of thought is just one more logical fallacy on your part.

Did you really think I didn't know that?? And my point is, why put more kids through what so many have been going through for years. You really don't get the point do you?

PaleRider · #**229** (**permalink**) 03-09-2008, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Lexi

Did you really think I didn't know that?? And my point is, why put more kids through what so many have been going through for years. You really don't get the point do you?

Because we have a right to live our lives without prejudice as to what sort of lives they are or might be. Neither, you, nor anyone else has the right to decide that this one or that one MIGHT not have a happy life and simply kill them.

GoRightAndYouCan'tGoWrong · #**230** (**permalink**) 03-09-2008, 09:11 PM

Yea Pale, didn't ya know that they are doing the baby a favor, you know...just in case.....