What I'm saying is that you're the biggest damn nutcase I've ever seen in my life so fluck off dude.. Go do some good for a change...

So you lose another point. Frustrating isn't it? All you have to do to prove me wrong is provide some credible science saying that unborns are part of their mother's bodies.

Of course, no such science exists.

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"It's not alive, It's not alive, It's not alive. Because I said it isnt', there's your proof jerk." ...lexi

"As far as your logical fallicy shit - shove it. I am a woman."...naturemomma

A fetus is not part of it's mother's body, someone's leg is part of their body, someone's ear is part of their body, however, a baby is just inside someone's body.

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Gun control is giving criminals guns and taken guns away from law abiding citizens.

She believes that if you are inside of a thing, that you are part of that thing. She is part of her house when she is home, she is part of her car when she is going somewhere. Anytime she goes through a door, she is part of whatever she is inside of.

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"It's not alive, It's not alive, It's not alive. Because I said it isnt', there's your proof jerk." ...lexi

"As far as your logical fallicy shit - shove it. I am a woman."...naturemomma

Which she only beleives to help justify the murder of an unborn baby.

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Gun control is giving criminals guns and taken guns away from law abiding citizens.

It is one thing to hold an opinion an intellectually honest opinion, It is another thing entirely to hold an opinion that is so distasteful to you that you have to lie to yourself in order to justify it.

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"It's not alive, It's not alive, It's not alive. Because I said it isnt', there's your proof jerk." ...lexi

"As far as your logical fallicy shit - shove it. I am a woman."...naturemomma

A fetus is neither separate nor individual. Please note that in order to be "separate" an organism must be detached from other organisms.

"Individual: "Biol. An organism regarded as having a separate existence...an organism detached from other organisms, composed of coherent parts, and capable of independent life." OED"


A woman's body recognizes the fetus as a part of her, otherwise it would be rejected.

"semiallogenic is the term frequently used to describe the fetal/host graft relationship. "
"further research has shown the maintenance of the graft relationship (and thus the pregnancy) depends on the production of hormones that will reduce the normal rejection mechanism of the immune system, and cause the host body to recognize the graft as a part of itself"

"combining male sperm and a female egg produces humans and other life forms. The fetus so produced has all the specific DNA, from previous eggs and sperm, read "life", to produce a new individual by combination, so life exists in each egg and spermatzoa prior to combining them"

Please note my word "fetus" and my reference to a "new individual"... did you miss that?

Let me ask you a question...is DNA alive?

That is simply not true. Take a leech, or a tick, or a flea, or a mosquito for example. They certainly attatch themselves to us but never become part of us. You are either separate from a thing or part of it. There is no third state.

And the child has a separate existence. Dependence does not mean that it is part of its mother. As a perfect example, a mother can have a disease while the child does not. It is separate. The mother might die and the child be delivered alive. This is because it is separate. And the child might die and the mother might live. They are separate. Dependence does not constitute being part of.

Actually, that isn't exactly how it works. Upon completion of fertilization, the child begins communicating chemically with its mother so that her body prepares for pregnancy. The child doesn't fool its mother into believing it is a part of her body, the child triggers a pregnancy response in her.

This argument reinforces the argument that the child is not part of its mother. If it were part of her, this chemical communication would not be necessary. Because the mother's body behaves as if the child is part of her does not mean that the child is, in reality. part of her.

It is nice that you brought some research here to prove your point, but if you are trying to prove that the child is part of it's mother's body, you will need to provide research that says that rather than research that clearly points out that they are separate individuals who have a very specific sort of relationship.

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"It's not alive, It's not alive, It's not alive. Because I said it isnt', there's your proof jerk." ...lexi

"As far as your logical fallicy shit - shove it. I am a woman."...naturemomma

Living organisms maintain a high state of order. They they are able to maintain this order because they consume energy. A chemical reaction
is over when it reaches its equilibrium, but a living orgism will
never reach the equilibrium of its metabolic reactions until it dies.

DNA alone is not alive. DNA is an acid. The result of a chemical reaction. Acids and bases are required for life, but are not alive themselves. The cell is the smallest unit that can be alive.

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"It's not alive, It's not alive, It's not alive. Because I said it isnt', there's your proof jerk." ...lexi

"As far as your logical fallicy shit - shove it. I am a woman."...naturemomma