So what's your point? Do you get a kick out trying to control other peoples lives. Maybe we should start calling you and Pale and that other dude "Hitler".

Well, get your wallet out Pale, jails cost lots of taxpayers money. You nutcases should have to pay for all of it.

If a pregnant woman is murdered in the state of FL, and she happens to be pregnant (26 weeks along), the accused murderer will be charged with two deaths, only if the fetus is beyond 26 weeks. One day prior - forget it.

Several states have this law. Some there is no age limit to the fetus, some are 26 weeks or older. It all depends on the political motivation of the person making the law. I am actually surprised that FL has an age limit. I live in the middle of the bible belt.

So much for the no, "usual pro-life, pro-choice emotion please" comments. hahahahahahahahhahahah, you asked the wrong crowd if you are looking for fair and balanced.

Pale is blinded by one-sided evidence, I (and a few others) are blinded by freedom (imagine that), some are blinded the bible, others by baby jesus, and some by pure madness. I am sure however, none of us have been much help!!! Hey, atleast we're consistant.

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Yes, my little banana sidekick - we shall.

Hitler is a very analogy of these people and their kind. Hitler loved doing weird experiments on pregnant women, really any type of woman.... didn't like freedom.... yep, sums up these people.

You guys really are pathetic. Why don't you feed a poor person or something? Help a pregnant woman pay her bills if you care so much. You don't care about life. You are a pro-fetus movement.
Definately not pro-life!!!!

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Your quote:

"This woman was only a few weeks away from delivering so this was considered a human being . It had a heart , brain, feelings and a soul, not just some cells in a petri dish. Makes a big difference. Even pro choice people recognize that fact, contrary to what Maniac and Paleface are always putting out."

You said what you said. Clearly you are suggesting that the child was only considered human because she was just a few weeks away from delivering. Clearly you were wrong. You run away from fact and now you are running away from your own words.

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"It's not alive, It's not alive, It's not alive. Because I said it isnt', there's your proof jerk." ...lexi

"As far as your logical fallicy shit - shove it. I am a woman."...naturemomma

I pay plenty of taxes so for once, I will see my money being put to a good use.

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"It's not alive, It's not alive, It's not alive. Because I said it isnt', there's your proof jerk." ...lexi

"As far as your logical fallicy shit - shove it. I am a woman."...naturemomma

Maybe you shoud aquaint yourself with the law. I don't know where you are getting the 26 week figure from, but the law states that fetal age is not an issue. If a woman can be shown to be pregnant, even if it is only a few days, the man can be charged with two killings. There is no minimum requisite age for the child.

Here is the definition of "unborn child" taken directly from the law:

`(d) As used in this section, the term `unborn child' means a child in utero, and the term `child in utero' or `child, who is in utero' means a member of the species homo sapiens, at any stage of development, who is carried in the womb.'.

Full text of the law is here:

Unborn Victims of Violence Act of 2004 -- Laci and Conner's Law

Sorry, it was signed into federal law in April of 2004. It applies to every state.

Since I am able to substantiate my points with credible material, it is clear that I am not blinded by anything. It is you and your pro choice buds who are blinded. Your refusal to see credible evidence and even the law in favor of the story you tell yourself so that you can maintain your position is a clear statement of your blindness.

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"It's not alive, It's not alive, It's not alive. Because I said it isnt', there's your proof jerk." ...lexi

"As far as your logical fallicy shit - shove it. I am a woman."...naturemomma

Hitler was a big pro choicer. Nazi germany was was one of the first governments to fund abortion. Nice company you are in.

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"It's not alive, It's not alive, It's not alive. Because I said it isnt', there's your proof jerk." ...lexi

"As far as your logical fallicy shit - shove it. I am a woman."...naturemomma

Why would we punish someone who has done nothing wrong?

You seem to not understand that the parasite has no rights.

definition of the word PARASITE:
A parasite lives in a close relationship with another organism, its host. The parasite is dependent on its host for its life functions; it obtains nourishment from the host without benefiting or killing the host.

Now, as much as go spouting off at the mouth about fetal pain and whatnot, maybe you can see the similarity in the science. Parasite and fetus are no different in how they behave and function. Would you like to protect a parasite as well? It's absurd.

Now, addressing the fetal pain issue. You say the fetus, backs away or flinches. Thus showing by it's actions it can feel pain.
Well, have you ever heard of a plant called "The Venus Fly Trap"? It's an interesting plant actually. It has little hairs, well some of them, and when touched the leaves SHUT closed. Now, do they feel pain because they react to movement, or someone/something poking it? Hardley. Tell me Pale, when will you start your movement to protect the killing of the innocent Venus Fly Trap? They really need ya buddy!

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Killing another human being because they are not convenient is wrong.

You seem not to know what does and does not constitute a parasite. Your dictionary definition gives a general defintion, but to actually know what constitutes a parasite, one really needs to go to a more authoritative source. The textbook General Parasitology gives a specific defintion.

You don't seem to know what a parasite is. Let me attempt to educate you.

A parasite is defined as an organism of one species living in or on an organism of another species (a heterospecific relationship) and deriving its nourishment from the host (is metabolically dependent on the host). (See Cheng, T.C., General Parasitology, p. 7, 1973.)

A human embryo or fetus is an organism of one species (Homo sapiens) living in the uterine cavity of an organism of the same species (Homo sapiens) and deriving its nourishment from the mother. This homospecific relationship is an obligatory dependent relationship, but not a parasitic relationship.

A parasite is an invading organism -- coming to parasitize the host from an outside source.

A human embryo or fetus comes from an inside source, being formed in the ovary of the mother from where it moves into the oviduct where it may be fertilized to form the zygote.

A parasite is generally harmful to some degree to the host that is harboring the parasite

A human embryo or fetus developing in the uterine cavity does not usually cause harm to the mother.

A parasite makes direct contact with the host's tissues, often holding on by either mouth parts, hooks or suckers to the tissues involved (intestinal lining, lungs, connective tissue, etc.).

A human embryo is isolated inside its own amniotic sac, and from that point on makes indirect contact with the mother only by way of the umbilical cord and placenta.

When a parasite invades host tissue, the host tissue usually responds by forming a capsule (of connective tissue) to surround the parasite and cut it off from other surrounding tissue (examples would be Paragonimus westermani, lung fluke, or Oncocerca volvulus, a nematode worm causing cutaneous filariasis in humans).

The lining tissue of the uterus responds by surrounding the embryo and does not cut it off from the mother, but rather establishes a means of close contact (the placenta) between the mother and the child.

I could go on, but this should be enough to make it clear to those who are not blinded by bias that unborns are not parasites.

The difference between you and me naturemomma is that I actually take the time to do the requisite research so that I know what I am talking about. I didn't just look in a dictionary to see what the definition of a parasite is, I took the time to actually learn what constitutes a parasite and what does not. As I pointed out in fine detail for you, the unborn and the parasite behave in very different ways and the mother's body responds to the unborn in a very different way that it would respond to a parasite.

Those hairs are actually trigger mechanisms and shoud not be confused with motor responses. You are grasping now naturemomma. Grasping, reaching, failing. Always failing. It is funny (and slightly tragic) that you would attempt to compare the motor responses of mamalian nerve tissue to trigger hairs in a plant.

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"It's not alive, It's not alive, It's not alive. Because I said it isnt', there's your proof jerk." ...lexi

"As far as your logical fallicy shit - shove it. I am a woman."...naturemomma