Roe is unconstitutional

wolf_22 · #61 (**permalink**) 02-10-2008, 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 36shadow

Well if I were you I would check the statistics. Someone put them up before and it showed that in fact statisticly most abortions are performed on unwanted pregnancy (birth control) not rape victims or those that endanger the womans life. So revs the arguement and concern. Anytime someone wants to hold people responsable for there actions these days they are automaticly racist , or haters of some kind or control freaks. Well if that were so then it would be no compromise and it would be a no abortion at all under any cercumstances. This is mearly taking a stance on abortion as a form of birth control period.

accidently getting pregnant and having an abortion is not using abortion as birth control. its a one-time instance.
and yes many abortions happen because of an unwanted pregnancy.

I dislike that people think having an abortion means you are not responcible. abortion and pregnancies effects many people- naturally it effects the female the most- but her partner and their families are effected to.
all the burden and the responcibilty lies on the woman. her action will cause a reaction in many lives.
abortion is one of the hardest choices for anyone to make. and we shouldn't judge until we are in that situation. at one time I was, and it was very stressful and difficult. I've also watched my friends go through that same situation- its no walk in the park.

36shadow · #62 (**permalink**) 02-10-2008, 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolf_22

accidently getting pregnant and having an abortion is not using abortion as birth control. its a one-time instance.
and yes many abortions happen because of an unwanted pregnancy.

I dislike that people think having an abortion means you are not responcible. abortion and pregnancies effects many people- naturally it effects the female the most- but her partner and their families are effected to.
all the burden and the responcibilty lies on the woman. her action will cause a reaction in many lives.
abortion is one of the hardest choices for anyone to make. and we shouldn't judge until we are in that situation. at one time I was, and it was very stressful and difficult. I've also watched my friends go through that same situation- its no walk in the park.

So would it not be better to learn to be more responsable like if your going to have sex regardless then you better be ready for the responsability if you get pregnant both the man and woman. How do you accidentaly get pregnant by they way I mean I have been with a lot of women and I just have to say I NEVER ACCIDENTALY HAD SEX. So maybe you can give me a heads up on that one.

Cookie Parker · #63 (**permalink**) 02-10-2008, 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoRightAndYouCan'tGoWrong

You know another thing that I have mentioned before, is the lack there of from the pro-choicers. Why are there so many? How many are having multiple (non medical related) abortions? Why Isn’t there some kind of ‘reform” underway? The responsible thing is to make it your mission to prove beyond science, religion, etc…that the right to choice on this issue is & has been a responsible one?

Come be honest, some of you say you are pro-choice “with exceptions”, but what if you personally knew someone that has had multiple abortions, like 3-4? Non medical related. Would it not somehow kick you in the gut? Make you wonder when enough is enough? Make you doubt the whole right to choice, because of that one irresponsible person?

Just a thought...???...

This is without a doubt one of the lamest arguments you anti-choice people give...show me your stats for multiple abortions....

Cookie Parker · #64 (**permalink**) 02-10-2008, 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 36shadow

So would it not be better to learn to be more responsable like if your going to have sex regardless then you better be ready for the responsability if you get pregnant both the man and woman. How do you accidentaly get pregnant by they way I mean I have been with a lot of women and I just have to say I NEVER ACCIDENTALY HAD SEX. So maybe you can give me a heads up on that one.

That's what the left tried to do in getting sex education in schools...something the right took away...

GoRightAndYouCan'tGoWrong · #65 (**permalink**) 02-10-2008, 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cookie Parker

This is without a doubt one of the lamest arguments you anti-choice people give...show me your stats for multiple abortions....

So you are another that can't answer the queation???

36shadow · #66 (**permalink**) 02-10-2008, 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cookie Parker

That's what the left tried to do in getting sex education in schools...something the right took away...

Look you radicals can slant it what ever way you want it still is not the truth. What does the truth not serve your purpose? This is in my mind and I believe in many others about accounting for your decision in a responsable way, although you have the right it does not negate your responsability. I am all for womens rights and a womans right to choose I do not nor will I see abortion to have your cake and eat it to as a right. And sex eduction in schools has been around for a long time what most me included is the content of this new form of sex education and at the age in wich they wish to teach what they call age appropriate. Take colorado those people need to be hung by the parents. And the school that wants to hand out birth control to little girls with out parental consent ya that is a good program. How about give back the power to the parents and teachers and for go this liberal hippy bullshit.

ptif219 · #67 (**permalink**) 02-11-2008, 01:10 AM

Show me abortion in the constitution.The supreme court made Roe law illegally by legislating from the bench that is illegal.

If roe is overturned the actual correct way would happen as it would be a state issue not a federal issue.

Roe should be done away with and the states should each deal with it individually.

36shadow · #68 (**permalink**) 02-11-2008, 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ptif219

Show me abortion in the constitution.The supreme court made Roe law illegally by legislating from the bench that is illegal.

If roe is overturned the actual correct way would happen as it would be a state issue not a federal issue.

Roe should be done away with and the states should each deal with it individually.

I totaly agree and they have been legislating from the bench for a while now yet know one stops them.

GoRightAndYouCan'tGoWrong · #69 (**permalink**) 02-11-2008, 01:16 AM

Blackmun, and the majority of the Supreme Court, found a right to abortion because that is what they set out to find. When they saw that the Constitution contained no foundation to support their political agenda, they simply manufactured one.

Upton · #70 (**permalink**) 02-11-2008, 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoRightAndYouCan'tGoWrong

Blackmun, and the majority of the Supreme Court, found a right to abortion because that is what they set out to find. When they saw that the Constitution contained no foundation to support their political agenda, they simply manufactured one.

They didn't manufacture anything. The Supreme Court said that laws banning abortion, violated an implied right to privacy in the US Constitution. A woman has a right to choose what to do with her own body without interference from some Bible thumping moralists. Seems cut and dried to me.