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02-24-2008, 08:39 PM
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The Ten Commandments also says you don't have the right to commit murder. You should change your name from naturemomma to neutermomma. People have abortions because they are selfish worthless souls who lost their moral dignity...You ever heard of adoption? ..."Oh wait I don't wanna go through pregnancy!" Well keep your damn legs closed then...."I have to finish school break out the vacuum and meat hook I have a human life I have to yank out of me before mid exams" "Oh wait I don't want my parents to know I'm pregnant I will lose their respect....Crank up the extraction machine....parents are visiting this weekend" Sick people ....I will pray for you and all people who think they have the RIGHT to murder children.
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Fuck your ten commandments.
By the way, I'm adopted, I understand the importance of it. Thanks.
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02-24-2008, 08:42 PM
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Fuck your ten commandments.
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Wow..just wow.
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02-24-2008, 09:03 PM
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Of course I know the function of frontal lobes. You, however, don't have a clue. The frontal lobes are involved in motor function, problem solving, spontaneity, memory, language, initiation, judgement, impulse control, and social and sexual behavior. Not pain processing.
It is the parietal lobe that is involved in pain processing, not the frontal lobes. The parietal lobe, however, serves as a filter/discriminator for pain rather than a processing center. The parietal lobe recieves pain impulses from the thalamus and determines whether you are feeling heat as a burn, or sticking or cutting pain, or pressure and it helps determine exactly how bad the pain is. If you damage your parietal lobe, you don't lose the ability to feel pain, you lose the ability to know what sort of pain you are feeling. Since unborns less than 12 or 14 weeks have no pariteal lobe function, they feel pain, but are unable to differentiate it into type or severity. They simply feel mindless agony.
Here are some links describing the function of the frontal lobes.
Frontal Lobe Function
Frontal Lobe Anatomy
Anatomy of the Brain - Frontal Lobes
Neuroscience For Kids - lobes of the brain
As I have said, and proven over and over, practically everything you base your position on is false.
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no conscious awareness- IE frontal lobes- no abilty to feel pain.
the parietal needs the frontal lobes to work. as does the occipital, temporal, thalmus, and every other part of the brain.
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02-24-2008, 09:11 PM
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Wolf 22 don't judge until you been there? You are a selfish pig! You couldn't give me one reason why abortion is ok. Your no better than Susan Smith or and father who wipes out his whole family because he thinks his family won't survive without him. If you lived a moral life then you wouldn't have to abort Gods child. I bet you call yourself a Christian? And if not maybe you should look into some serious spiritual help. Today's Society is souless and you are part of the destruction of human existance.
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I'm far from selfish. I think abut everyone involved- the potential life (fetus, the woman, the man, and their familes.
abortion is a woman's choice. she owns her body and controls her life. its no one's business what someone does with their person.
and yes any pregnancy that leads a woman to ask her self the AAP question (adoption, abortion, or parenting) is the hardest choice she'll ever have to make. you have not been there. you do not know and you are very disrespectful to the females who have had to live with that.
I keep my god out of my politics. I wish there was no need nor desire for abortions, but sadly there is. I work and support those who work to bring down the numbers of abortion through non-legistlative means (discounting laws that protect pregnant women). I want abortion to always be safe and legal.
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So if they don't feel pain they are not human life? What the hell is wrong with you people? God has something for all of you murderers....Do you thank God that your Mother was woman enough to give birth to you, so you could post this bullshit.
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no, but until a fetus can think (which is around the ame time they can feel pain) and know they exist they are not alive in my book. humans are described most often by their abilty to reason, feel, and think. once a fetus resembles a human in these fundemental ways its alive.
I thank god my mother was prepared to have me and that she was able to give me such a good life. and I thank god that she had the abilty to choose what happened to her body
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02-24-2008, 09:14 PM
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I'm far from selfish. I think abut everyone involved- the potential life (fetus, the woman, the man, and their familes.
abortion is a woman's choice. she owns her body and controls her life. its no one's business what someone does with their person.
and yes any pregnancy that leads a woman to ask her self the AAP question (adoption, abortion, or parenting) is the hardest choice she'll ever have to make. you have not been there. you do not know and you are very disrespectful to the females who have had to live with that.
I keep my god out of my politics. I wish there was no need nor desire for abortions, but sadly there is. I work and support those who work to bring down the numbers of abortion through non-legistlative means (discounting laws that protect pregnant women). I want abortion to always be safe and legal.
no, but until a fetus can think (which is around the ame time they can feel pain) and know they exist they are not alive in my book. humans are described most often by their abilty to reason, feel, and think. once a fetus resembles a human in these fundemental ways its alive.
I thank god my mother was prepared to have me and that she was able to give me such a good life. and I thank god that she had the abilty to choose what happened to her body
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4/5th of abortions are done when the fetus can feel pain and can think, if you're in that time period abortion should be illegal, if not, it should be legal.
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02-24-2008, 09:35 PM
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4/5th of abortions are done when the fetus can feel pain and can think, if you're in that time period abortion should be illegal, if not, it should be legal.
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most abortions are preformed during the fist trimester (0-12 weeks) fetuses can't feel until week 14.
there should be no abortion past week 14 (hell even 13 to be safe) unless there is a medical reason.
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02-24-2008, 09:36 PM
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Wow..just wow.
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Yep, NATUREmomma, NOT JESUSfreak. 
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02-24-2008, 09:43 PM
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most abortions are preformed during the fist trimester (0-12 weeks) fetuses can't feel until week 14.
there should be no abortion past week 14 (hell even 13 to be safe) unless there is a medical reason.
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Actually they can feel within NINE WEEKS, there-for abortions should not be allowed past EIGHT WEEKS.
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02-24-2008, 10:12 PM
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Naturermomma, you do realize the ammendments were in the constitution, not the bible, right?
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02-24-2008, 10:17 PM
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Naturermomma, you do realize the ammendments were in the constitution, not the bible, right?
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What the fuck are you talking about?
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