Roe is unconstitutional

wolf_22 · #41 (**permalink**) 02-10-2008, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by GoRightAndYouCan'tGoWrong

No no sorry wolf, the demonizing of pro-lifers by throwing the homeless & the poor in our faces won’t work. These are American problem, not a pro-lifers. So reward the baby slayer for a good deed & the pro-lifers are scum.

Killing a baby to prevent homelessness, poverty, wars etc…is irresponsible. Like I have said before; all these things will exist without abortions as abortion serves no greater purpose other than personal convenience.

that is not true.
having an abortion is being responcible- especially if it means not bringing another person into this world who will suffer!

36shadow · #42 (**permalink**) 02-10-2008, 01:29 AM

good point maybe I misunderstood where she was going with her point let me read it again.

36shadow · #43 (**permalink**) 02-10-2008, 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by wolf_22

that is not true.
having an abortion is being responcible- especially if it means not bringing another person into this world who will suffer!

ahhhhhhhh hell bamboozeled. Look that is not responable, responsability comes before you get pregnant. The choices you make and taking responsability for them choices(sex, consensual sex)

naturemomma · #44 (**permalink**) 02-10-2008, 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by GoRightAndYouCan'tGoWrong

No no sorry wolf, the demonizing of pro-lifers by throwing the homeless & the poor in our faces won’t work. These are American problem, not a pro-lifers. So reward the baby slayer for a good deed & the pro-lifers are scum.

Killing a baby to prevent homelessness, poverty, wars etc…is irresponsible. Like I have said before; all these things will exist without abortions as abortion serves no greater purpose other than personal convenience.

Ya know, that's true. Personal convenience. Completely true. But a womans right nonetheless.

Wolf, Shadow and go right, we have been arguing about this for days, and the thing that gets me is that in some ways we are all saying the same thing. All 4 of us value life. I don't personally agree w/ abortion, and I whink wolf has said the same. I believe however that a woman should be able to choose.

I have 2 daughters, yes, said this before but i am going to say it again. I don't give a shit if they make a stupid decision, I don't want them to pay for it for the rest of their lives - and screw up their entire future, because of your, or my morality! Anytime anyone gives up personal freedom - they become slaves - end of argument.

naturemomma · #45 (**permalink**) 02-10-2008, 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by GoRightAndYouCan'tGoWrong

That is not true

As soon as I posted that I thought of you

(in a good funny ha ha way)

naturemomma · #46 (**permalink**) 02-10-2008, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by 36shadow

ahhhhhhhh hell bamboozeled. Look that is not responable, responsability comes before you get pregnant. The choices you make and taking responsability for them choices(sex, consensual sex)

What about paying for it? You never did answer my thread on paying for everything.

36shadow · #47 (**permalink**) 02-10-2008, 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by naturemomma

Ya know, that's true. Personal convenience. Completely true. But a womans right nonetheless.

Wolf, Shadow and go right, we have been arguing about this for days, and the thing that gets me is that in some ways we are all saying the same thing. All 4 of us value life. I don't personally agree w/ abortion, and I whink wolf has said the same. I believe however that a woman should be able to choose.

I have 2 daughters, yes, said this before but i am going to say it again. I don't give a shit if they make a stupid decision, I don't want them to pay for it for the rest of their lives - and screw up their entire future, because of your, or my morality! Anytime anyone gives up personal freedom - they become slaves - end of argument.

well I have a 15 month old daughter I sure hope I teach her the value of life both unborn and born and the moral difference between the morning after pill after a rape and termination because she was just not responsable or safe or non active. But in the end right now it is legal and her choice so weather I like it or agree with it I will support her decision either way. I do believe if it ever happened I would have to talk and convince my wife of that because she is totaly against it but not a radical by any means. She listens to reason and logic but very opinionated.

36shadow · #48 (**permalink**) 02-10-2008, 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by naturemomma

What about paying for it? You never did answer my thread on paying for everything.

elaborate please everything what.

36shadow · #49 (**permalink**) 02-10-2008, 02:10 AM

Originally Posted by 36shadow

So in true lib fashion you brand me because I have a different view than you and you do not even know me. Medacine is not living on its own. I am not a woman hater. And no it is not about certain life being more important you radical reading crap into it psycho. If a woman comes in after a rape she can be given a pill. It is all about moral reality a woman should not have to live with the tradgedy for the rest of her life is she chooses not to as a result of a violation of HER PRIVATE BODY. A woman should also have the choice if the child endangers her life she did not make that so. But because she decided to have sex willingly and get pregnant well then that was her choice and should take responsability for said choice as should the man who got her pregnant. Excuse me if I did not include that before but it is both of there responsability. Life is not a thing to be toyed with and discarded just because they wanted a good time. Sex is outstanding and I thank god did not screw up with all the playing around I did. But it comes with responsabiltiy and you have to forgive me but ya men have a part in it but hey if a woman don't allow it, it don't happen now does it. So what your pissed because women are the only ones that can have babies? I mean give it a rest trying to attack a logical belief by hitting the outside bullshit of the matter don't work.

Now look how you took only part of what I said to serve to prove a point on your side. You have to use the whole statement not pick it a part to make it look like I said something else. I stand by everything I have said and non of it makes me look like a woman hater. That is how you wrongly interpret it that is all it proves.

GoRightAndYouCan'tGoWrong · #50 (**permalink**) 02-10-2008, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by wolf_22

that is not true.
having an abortion is being responcible- especially if it means not bringing another person into this world who will suffer!

The human embryonic “organism” formed at fertilization is a whole human being, and therefore it is not just a "blob" or a "bunch of cells." We are all organisms…

A new human individual also has a mixture of both the mother's and the father's chromosomes, sex is defined thus rendering this a human. This of course get way more complicated, but I'm tired & you all know where I'm going with this....

A human being at an embryonic age and that human being at an adult age are naturally the same, the biological differences are due only to the differences in maturity, the age of the cell…