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Old 02-11-2008, 10:53 PM
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actually most women who get abortions are fine and even if they have some regret- they agree that its was the best option for them.

and yes males arn't always victims of a woman's choice- Choosing Us | Skirt! Magazine

a fetus is not a baby. nor is it alive.

-and I do not pick and choose parts of the constitution.
You know little obviously i took my wife to christian counseling 20 years after her abortion and no i did not know her when she got the abortion.

The Emotional Effects of Abortion

This articles tells some of the problems.

So lets see if a fetus is not aborted you will have a baby so that means aborting the fetus killed the baby and denied it it's right to life.

You justify abortion with a stupid justification.

Yet stab a woman who is pregnant in the stomach and kill the fetus and see if you are charged with murder.
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Old 02-11-2008, 10:57 PM
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You know little obviously i took my wife to christian counseling 20 years after her abortion and no i did not know her when she got the abortion.

The Emotional Effects of Abortion

This articles tells some of the problems.

So lets see if a fetus is not aborted you will have a baby so that means aborting the fetus killed the baby and denied it it's right to life.

You justify abortion with a stupid justification.

Yet stab a woman who is pregnant in the stomach and kill the fetus and see if you are charged with murder.
That is a good point so if a person stabs a woman and she lives but the fetus does not and it was still in the window of legal abortion then that would not be murder. It would be attempted murder or assault with a deadly weapon on the woman and just practicing abortion with out a medical lic. . hmmmmmmmmmmmmm very interesting.
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Old 02-11-2008, 11:00 PM
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I'm sorry how many years did you serve in the military for this country how many purple hearts was it you have you can call me a lot of things broud don't not call me unpatriotic YOU DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT. I believe in free will but I also believe to give freedom and not allow some step on others freedoms in doing so there must be laws that govern CIVIC RESPONSABILITY. Do you and your liberal radicals have any idea what the hell that is anymore NO BECAUSE IN YOUR QUEST FOR SUCH UNBRIDAL FREEDOM YOU STEP ON OTHERS WITH NO PROBLEM. You could not handle true freedom wich has never ever realy existed, except maybe in the old west where it was basicaly the survival of the fitist. Now in that case many liberal ass pussies would not survive the laws we have now is the only way they do. I am not a woman hater but I sure as hell am getting close on your part with your radical tunnel vision and twisting on the subject.
I served 4 years in the PEACE Corps. You fuckin' idiot. But, I suppose you know nothing of that.

I know all I need to know about you, your words say it all.
You are against free will and rights and you hate women - your words prove it - read them again!
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Old 02-11-2008, 11:13 PM
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I served 4 years in the PEACE Corps. You fuckin' idiot. But, I suppose you know nothing of that.

I know all I need to know about you, your words say it all.
You are against free will and rights and you hate women - your words prove it - read them again!
Actualy I spent two summers in Mexico with our church building schools for poor towns that did not have them and other buildings. But still nothing like serving your country risking your life for all americans even women. Nothing I say or have said points to me hating women that is your imagination. That is why you attack with the same crap and don't answer my last questions. I also rented a 24ft trailer filled it with food and water and drove 1200 miles to help out in louisiana. I also took the two weeks of vacation to do so and help out clean up what I could in that short period of time. Your preaching to the wrong person but then you would say I only gave the food and water to men huh. get real. Your just trying to kill a lagit arguement with lies and personal attacks typical radical lib.
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Old 02-11-2008, 11:15 PM
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You know little obviously i took my wife to christian counseling 20 years after her abortion and no i did not know her when she got the abortion.

The Emotional Effects of Abortion

This articles tells some of the problems.

So lets see if a fetus is not aborted you will have a baby so that means aborting the fetus killed the baby and denied it it's right to life.

You justify abortion with a stupid justification.

Yet stab a woman who is pregnant in the stomach and kill the fetus and see if you are charged with murder.

every woman is different but on adverage women do not regret abortions and do not suffer afterward.
Study Says Most Women Don't Regret Abortion

I"m sorry your wife regrets her choice.

abortion has been compared to divorce- legal and sometimes the best option, but even in the best circumstances its still an emotional experience.
any one with a half a brain knows that anytime you change your life, it has an emotional impact.

a fetus is pre-life. so yes if you don't abort one day (in a few months actually) you will have a baby.
but that doesn't mean a fetus is a baby. neither is a sperm cell or an ovum.


if you kill a woman, rather she is pregnant or not, you will be charged with murder,
but until a fetus is viable you have not committed murder.
(but I believe you should be charged with an unlawful abortion and violating her reproductive rights)
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Old 02-11-2008, 11:18 PM
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I served 4 years in the PEACE Corps. You fuckin' idiot. But, I suppose you know nothing of that.

I know all I need to know about you, your words say it all.
You are against free will and rights and you hate women - your words prove it - read them again!
Now I have refrained from it but you went there so listen up you dumb bitch the peace corp don't measure up to serving your country. What you helped other countries and left your own to do so, what you don't think people in your own country don't need such help. Another thing cunt there is no such thing as true free will if there was it is called NO LAWS AND ANARCHY. So you are for total free will so if a thirteen year old girl wants to have sex with a 28 year old man you think because it's her body the man should not get in trouble. That is free will, COME ON DON'T HIDE BEHIND SLEEZY ATTACKS WITH LIES ANSWER THE QUESTION.
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Old 02-11-2008, 11:21 PM
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every woman is different but on adverage women do not regret abortions and do not suffer afterward.
Study Says Most Women Don't Regret Abortion

I"m sorry your wife regrets her choice.

abortion has been compared to divorce- legal and sometimes the best option, but even in the best circumstances its still an emotional experience.
any one with a half a brain knows that anytime you change your life, it has an emotional impact.

a fetus is pre-life. so yes if you don't abort one day (in a few months actually) you will have a baby.
but that doesn't mean a fetus is a baby. neither is a sperm cell or an ovum.


if you kill a woman, rather she is pregnant or not, you will be charged with murder,
but until a fetus is viable you have not committed murder.
(but I believe you should be charged with an unlawful abortion and violating her reproductive rights)
There have been cases where someone has killed a pregnant woman and they are charged with two murders so you saying they have been charged illegaly and you would fight to get the one count of murder withdrawn?
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Old 02-11-2008, 11:22 PM
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Ya leave you radical legt retard it is obvious your husband is well hung because he has literaly FUCKED YOUR BRAINS OUT.
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Old 02-12-2008, 12:02 AM
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Now I have refrained from it but you went there so listen up you dumb bitch the peace corp don't measure up to serving your country. What you helped other countries and left your own to do so, what you don't think people in your own country don't need such help. Another thing cunt there is no such thing as true free will if there was it is called NO LAWS AND ANARCHY. So you are for total free will so if a thirteen year old girl wants to have sex with a 28 year old man you think because it's her body the man should not get in trouble. That is free will, COME ON DON'T HIDE BEHIND SLEEZY ATTACKS WITH LIES ANSWER THE QUESTION.
Wow. Nice language - your right, you don't hate women.

I have been an activist since I was a kid, fighting for one cause or the next, my Granfather taught me it was duty to my country. Back then girls weren't able to join the marines, we could only use our voices. As you can see - I have never stopped. By the way, I spent 4 months in Miami after Andrew hit, I also went to New Orleans, I was part of Paint Tacoma Beautiful, I currently help build houses for Habitat for Humanity. I also volunteer with AIDS children, infants and adults at a local hospital, every x-mas and thanksgiving and Easter, I am at the soup kitchen with my husband and kids. We don't do gifts on x-mas. People can't eat. Seems kinda fuckin' stupid. My Grandfather was a navy cheif, retired, Then he worked as a revenuer. Also a 32nd degree mason. My husband is a navy seal. My brother is in the Airforce. My uncle is a marine. My nephew is in the army. My sister is a marine. This is some of what me and my family have done for this country that we all love and serve - through action. And I can tell you YOU DUMB FUCK - NOT ONE OF MY FAMILY MEMEBERS SERVE(D) ON AMERICAN SOIL. You dumbass. Where is everyone right now - oh ya - Iraq. Idiot.
I believe in helping the global commuity. That's why I served in the PEACE CORP. I don't believe that we are any better than anyone else - I actually value ALL human life. HUMAN is HUMAN.

This goes back to my earlier argument - you value some life more than other!!!!! You think american life is more important than someone in Africa for example. Life is not valuble to you. Control is. Hating women - that feels real good doesn't it?

Any man that has sex with a 13 yr. old should be prosecuted for rape. And yes the girl should have an abortion - what, make her have it. You would think that! Woman hater.
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Old 02-12-2008, 12:08 AM
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There have been cases where someone has killed a pregnant woman and they are charged with two murders so you saying they have been charged illegaly and you would fight to get the one count of murder withdrawn?
Hey, why don't you check to see what tri-mester they were in. YUP, that's right, 2nd and beyond, I believe most of thse laws start at 24 weeks. Most, if not all, of these cases - the baby could have lived outside the mother - thus making it a baby - not a fetus. There are NO fetus protection laws. Look it up. Dare ya.
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