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Old 01-21-2008, 06:11 PM
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Most poor take responsibility for their actions, in fact most people I know are responsible....

being irresponsible is not limited to the working classes.....if that is where you were going with this, not sure what you were implying, exactly....

"banning" abortion is like "banning" alcohol, or anything else....It just doesn't work!!!!
If they don't want the Supreme Court invovled, then federal funding for abortions shouldn't be involved.

Ahhh...the real world boys, is that you can stick it in, but not stick it out.
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The Roe v. Wade decision as it stands and the federal funding of abortions are two different issues entirely. That is the first point.

Second. There is no way in the world I want to be the person to tell a female rape victim who becomes pregnant they have to carry that fetus to term. Horrible way to operate and this is part of what Harry Blackmun did write about. You can talk all you wnat to about society of 'morals and values' but even priests have been known to rape. Right to lifers really don't think about these things.

Third, most pro-life people have not REALLY read through the Supreme Court decision and realize the complexities of the issue...go back to what I just said---that is only one scenerio of many those of staunchly interpreted Christian belief fail to understand.

So who will adopt a crack baby that would have to brought to term by a mother who was messed up on crack and then raped? What wonderful Evangelical Christian church will intervene and make this all happen? Pay for mentally and physically deficiant person to live their life(?)...oh, I get it, they won't but then the federal governement does have to jump on the tail end and make it right and pay for a mental health facility or care center for a retarded child. If Roe v. Wade was overturned you might as well go back to the time of the Scarlet Letter.
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The Roe v. Wade decision as it stands and the federal funding of abortions are two different issues entirely. That is the first point.

Second. There is no way in the world I want to be the person to tell a female rape victim who becomes pregnant they have to carry that fetus to term. Horrible way to operate and this is part of what Harry Blackmun did write about. You can talk all you wnat to about society of 'morals and values' but even priests have been known to rape. Right to lifers really don't think about these things.

Third, most pro-life people have not REALLY read through the Supreme Court decision and realize the complexities of the issue...go back to what I just said---that is only one scenerio of many those of staunchly interpreted Christian belief fail to understand.

So who will adopt a crack baby that would have to brought to term by a mother who was messed up on crack and then raped? What wonderful Evangelical Christian church will intervene and make this all happen? Pay for mentally and physically deficiant person to live their life(?)...oh, I get it, they won't but then the federal governement does have to jump on the tail end and make it right and pay for a mental health facility or care center for a retarded child. If Roe v. Wade was overturned you might as well go back to the time of the Scarlet Letter.
Cat you know that I am for abortion in the cases of rape and incest. Nice Spin.
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Old 01-21-2008, 06:50 PM
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Personal responsibility can be having an abortion. You think that having an unwanted child is personal responsibility?

YOU DON'T GET TO "WANT IT OR NOT"

"ABORTION MAKES THAT CHOICE POSSIBLE"

AND THE IDEA OF ABORTION COMES FROM POPULATION "CUNT TROLL" FREAKS

ARE HUMANS ANIMALS OR MIRACLES
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Cat you know that I am for abortion in the cases of rape and incest. Nice Spin.
There is no spin.

The point I make is not really directed at you than at the jackass at Bellevue Baptist (and the like) who really do think they will get an all or nothing ruling on this as per Biblical scripture. The complications that arise as per the issue of 'procreation' are many and saying every fetus is sacred just does not cut it.

I am not one for wholesale abortion or it used as 'birth control.' This is even written into the briefs and decision made in 1973. Right to life groups do a horrible disservice to our Supreme Court and system when they manipulate the information that is the actual truth about Roe v. Wade.
  • The majority of Americans want Roe v. Wade to stay.
  • The majority of Americans do not want the procedure used as contraceptive.
  • The majority of Americans know the procedure needs to be done ASAP after a woman finds she is pregnant and she is in a very difficult circumstance to raise a child. Second and third trimester abortions should not be performed unless under very extreme and life threatening circumstances to baby and or mother.
I would say I sit right in the middle of the majority on this one, it is all pretty darn reasonable really.
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Old 01-21-2008, 07:12 PM
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My apologizes.

I was responding to the article and not your letter.
Thank you for taking your time to write it.
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