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Old 12-31-2007, 02:13 PM
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Fine, when HUMAN life begins is at conception. Its a pure biological fact, unless you are prepared to tell me what other species we are at conception.
Well I've seen some people at 40 who's humanity never existed & could argue that they have no life.
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Old 12-31-2007, 02:18 PM
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I think one can actually even take religion out of this argument, as far as when life begins, and just use simple logic. When the egg and the sperm meet it is a new creation, a new life...at that exact point. If it isn't a life and alive, what is it a tadpole, a turtle?? Or, now since science gives us an amazing peek into the womb, at what point would you say it is becomes human??
I totally agree with the statement on personal responsibility. A lot of people, and I used to be one of them, say what about rape and incest...and that's a discussion for later(it is still a life)...but, abortions procured because of rape and incest are less than 1% or so.
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Old 12-31-2007, 02:25 PM
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I think one can actually even take religion out of this argument, as far as when life begins, and just use simple logic. When the egg and the sperm meet it is a new creation, a new life...at that exact point. If it isn't a life and alive, what is it a tadpole, a turtle?? Or, now since science gives us an amazing peek into the womb, at what point would you say it is becomes human??
I totally agree with the statement on personal responsibility. A lot of people, and I used to be one of them, say what about rape and incest...and that's a discussion for later(it is still a life)...but, abortions procured because of rape and incest are less than 1% or so.
Well, usually. When a child is born from incest it becomes a ward of the state anyways. Also, I would not be one to tell a woman she could not abort a child from rape.

I would find it hard to love a child that my wife had because of rape. Not to mention the very existance of the child in my daily life would remind me of the rape.

But my only point in this is. Regardless of what you think, or feel about abortion in the many instances it could or should not be justified. There is an underlying thing that astonishes me.

Why would you get pregnant if you did not want to have a child? I think condoms are like what? 50 Cents, maybe a buck fifty if you want the glow in the darked ribbed for her's and your's pleasures, vanilla flavored extended tip pre-lubricated, made in America brands.

So take some responsability before abortion becomes a factor. You will find out the Subject will not be so divisive in America if people did that.
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