Chopped Up Body Parts Of Late-Term Fetus Displayed to Millions of People

Cookie Parker · #21 (**permalink**) 12-27-2007, 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by migueld

It is plain as day you must not have read one fucking thing i have wrote..I am against war. It is nothing but another form of population control..and a tool for enrichment by the power's that be.

I agree that children are abused every single day, so are adults. Forced prostitution and slavery still exists...But our current leader feels the urge to spend Billions on War.. I don't disagree with you about it, but trying to justify abortion because of abuse is wrong..most great leaders and motivational speakers come from horrible childhoods.

To deny the right to live is simply wrong..it's not about freedom..it's about life. and if that child is allowed to live what could that person grow up to be?...the next Martin luther king?..or (pick your favorite) person that could insipre millions towards a better way of life. We are all unique, we all have something to make this world a better place. To stop that in the womb is wrong, we have cheated ourselves out of the love of 40 million + Americans already..can't you even see that on the most narrowest of levels?

Here is a quote:

As an O.B. doctor of thirty years, and having delivered 4,000 babies, I can assure you life begins at conception. I am legally responsible for the unborn, no matter what I do, so there's a legal life there. The unborn has inheritance rights, and if there's an injury or a killing, there is a legal entity. There is no doubt about it.
-Ron Paul
Source: 2007 GOP Values Voter Presidential Debate Sep 17, 2007

When you carry a fetus in your womb, you decide...until that time, as long as you are not actively adopting all abused and neglected children in this country, all children born addicted to crack or deformed and needing medical attention, you don't have a say in anything a woman does with her choices in her life....you don't control other people to that extent in America...

migueld · #22 (**permalink**) 12-30-2007, 05:05 PM

You are a slave to Eugenics...you are a promoter of murder....i am sorry for you. "Propaganda" when it shows what really happens when a doctor who takes the oath breaks that trust? Why don't you read it

The Hippocratic Oath

I SWEAR in the presence of the Almighty and before my family, my teachers and my peers that according to my ability and judgment I will keep this Oath and Stipulation.

TO RECKON all who have taught me this art equally dear to me as my parents and in the same spirit and dedication to impart a knowledge of the art of medicine to others. I will continue with diligence to keep abreast of advances in medicine. I will treat without exception all who seek my ministrations, so long as the treatment of others is not compromised thereby, and I will seek the counsel of particularly skilled physicians where indicated for the benefit of my patient.

I WILL FOLLOW that method of treatment which according to my ability and judgment, I consider for the benefit of my patient and abstain from whatever is harmful or mischievous. I will neither prescribe nor administer a lethal dose of medicine to any patient even if asked nor counsel any such thing nor perform the utmost respect for every human life from fertilization to natural death and reject abortion that deliberately takes a unique human life.

WITH PURITY, HOLINESS AND BENEFICENCE I will pass my life and practice my art. Except for the prudent correction of an imminent danger, I will neither treat any patient nor carry out any research on any human being without the valid informed consent of the subject or the appropriate legal protector thereof, understanding that research must have as its purpose the furtherance of the health of that individual. Into whatever patient setting I enter, I will go for the benefit of the sick and will abstain from every voluntary act of mischief or corruption and further from the seduction of any patient.

WHATEVER IN CONNECTION with my professional practice or not in connection with it I may see or hear in the lives of my patients which ought not be spoken abroad, I will not divulge, reckoning that all such should be kept secret.

WHILE I CONTINUE to keep this Oath unviolated may it be granted to me to enjoy life and the practice of the art and science of medicine with the blessing of the Almighty and respected by my peers and society, but should I trespass and violate this Oath, may the reverse by my lot.

So i ask you...who in the world of medicine would do such a thing?.......life begins as soon as sperm hits the egg. Abortion is stopping the creation of life. If a pregnancy is brought to term a baby is born... if you interrupt that process....by Oh..i don't know...perhaps cutting a hole in the baby's head and sucking the brains out...then presto chango you just had a abortion!

It's plain to see..you like Government funded and approved murder.....Too bad. You can dismiss that video as propaganda, but the truth is clear. What do you think happens when people commit murder?...what the "thing" insides just disappears?

There are tremendous consequence for women who have had abortions..and since you seem to be Dr.Mengele's
long lost spokesperson i will have plenty of research material on this subject. This debate has only just started my friend!

navyvet50 · #23 (**permalink**) 12-30-2007, 05:37 PM

The BIG LIE !!!! The right wing is against abortion.
If they think it is murder make birth control and sex education free and accessible.
If they think it is murder fight poverty the main reason for abortions.
If they think it is murder stop all trade with China, they mandate forced abortions.
Vote against people like Tom Delay, who support the laws in US territories that allow companies to force their employees to have abortions or lose their jobs.
Support policies that remove the need for abortions.
How about also removing the cost of adoption.
Oh, wait that is too hard. Take the conservative easy way out and have the government involved in every decision between a doctor and patient.

ONEWHITEDUCK · #24 (**permalink**) 12-30-2007, 05:42 PM

HAVE YOU NOTICED THE BIGGEST DEFENDER OF CHOPPING BABIES UP IN THIS THREAD IS COO COO PARKER THE ISIS (there is no God) DEATHWORSHIPPER :-)

eheheheheheheheheheh

Joyfulwoman · #25 (**permalink**) 12-30-2007, 06:39 PM

Cookie,
You are totally correct about all the atrocities that happen to children in this world and we should defend them and do everything we can to protect and give them the care they need. That being said...correct me if I am wrong...you are for life. Because I read you telling somebody else that they were inconsistant because they were against abortion, but somehow not worried about the other atrocities...So, then since you are passionately against the other atrocities, you, in order to be intellectually honest and consistant, are against abortion, right? I am just strictly following your line of logic here. If you are against one of the atrocities, you must be against the other. Again, I look forward to your response.

satv365 · #26 (**permalink**) 12-31-2007, 01:55 PM

Why don't you keep your legs closed or use birth control if you do not want to have a baby?

I'm rather luke warm on the abortion topic. I am not personally convinced that life begins at conception. However....

If women could be more responsable with there bodies, show some self respect and not have 40 sexual partners in there life...

Abortion would not be an issue.

I do doubt that the majority of women defending abortion give a shit about the rights of the father. Who may be against the abortion. Many things to look at in this situation.

I'll save myself from a rant. (quitting ciggarrettes so I dive into rants more easily now).

But seriously, where is the self control nowadays? I was horny as hell when I was 15-19 years old. I only slept with 3 women my whole life, and made damn sure I had a condom or she was on birth control. Why? because I practice the oh to less common factor in American life these days.

Personal Responsability!!!

nathanbforrest45 · #27 (**permalink**) 12-31-2007, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by marmalade6

Abortion is not murder when it occurs during first few months, which is the standard here in US. And, why should it bother you if a fetus is taken. I think the whole anti-abortion position is motivated by THE POSSIBILITY that the fetus develops into THE NEW MESSIAH, or do you want to decide when the soul enters the fetus?

The films are propaganda. Abortion has nothing to do with anyone but the individual woman. NOT EVEN HER DOCTOR. HORRORS!

Sure, lets not think about the individual child here. After all, you can come with 1000 Bible verses, or Scientific fact or just plain old bull shit to justify it. To me its a human being and as such deserves to live not be slaughtered just because it has become a sacrement for the lesbian left.

By the way, the argument that we don't care what happens is total bullshit. There are thousands of funds and programs to help the homeless and the destitute and no man worthy of the name would ever justify or condone child abuse or rape. That is just another one of those "lets change the focus" arguments.

Rhadrin · #28 (**permalink**) 12-31-2007, 02:17 PM

Ill never understand the arguement that people try to say that life begins some time other then conception. Its quite simple, biologically without conception human life cannot begin, so its quite logical that is where lfe begins, at conception. It has nothing to do with religion god or anything like that, its pure biology.

crowonapost · #29 (**permalink**) 12-31-2007, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Rhadrin

Ill never understand the arguement that people try to say that life begins some time other then conception. Its quite simple, biologically without conception human life cannot begin, so its quite logical that is where lfe begins, at conception. It has nothing to do with religion god or anything like that, its pure biology.

On the subject of when 'life' began.

Curious.

So...where the sperm dead before combination?

Where the eggs dead before the combination?

Rhadrin · #30 (**permalink**) 12-31-2007, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by crowonapost

On the subject of when 'life' began.

Curious.

So...where the sperm dead before combination?

Where the eggs dead before the combination?

Fine, when HUMAN life begins is at conception. Its a pure biological fact, unless you are prepared to tell me what other species we are at conception.