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12-26-2007, 02:18 PM
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So her answer to this is what?.......murder? we were not talking about child sex slavery here. Just the simple fact that Abortion is murder. Don't try to deflect the argument about it by saying "well if they are allowed to live just look at what happens to them..."
For the record, i don't care what anybody does with there body. I do draw the line when you have ANOTHER LIVING PERSON IN IT THAT YOU WANT TO KILL.
Where is their rights?...who speaks up for them?...or is it until they are born they have no rights?....well just who in fuck can go around and deny rights to people that have not even been given the fucking chance to be born in the first place?
Why not wait until the child is born, then decide if they should live?...see it's much better to murder in the womb, then people can go around and bullshit themselves into thinking " it really wasn't murder"
Now this video shows what really happens under the cover of the womb..sick ain't it?..God Damn right it is....There is a term that should be used instead of abortion..it's called Genocide.
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12-26-2007, 02:19 PM
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Warmongers clearly dont care about life. This is about control. And your not going to get it. The goverment has far to much already.
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Everything you just said is total bullshit
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12-26-2007, 02:29 PM
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So her answer to this is what?.......murder? we were not talking about child sex slavery here. Just the simple fact that Abortion is murder. Don't try to deflect the argument about it by saying "well if they are allowed to live just look at what happens to them..."
For the record, i don't care what anybody does with there body. I do draw the line when you have ANOTHER LIVING PERSON IN IT THAT YOU WANT TO KILL.
Where is their rights?...who speaks up for them?...or is it until they are born they have no rights?....well just who in fuck can go around and deny rights to people that have not even been given the fucking chance to be born in the first place?
Why not wait until the child is born, then decide if they should live?...see it's much better to murder in the womb, then people can go around and bullshit themselves into thinking " it really wasn't murder"
Now this video shows what really happens under the cover of the womb..sick ain't it?..God Damn right it is....There is a term that should be used instead of abortion..it's called Genocide.
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We're talking about the same old fear and scare tactics used against women and their rights to choose their lives and their destinies versus the hypocrisy of men getting involved in the conversation because the people that cry "save the unborn" have proven they coudl give a rat's ass about what happens to the born..including the poverty created from corporate welfare and allowing corporations to take their jobs overseas while getting tariff breaks to bring the goods bakc in here at inflated costs to us....
Your hypocrisy is so renown, you couldn't win an argument on this issue in the 3rd grade debate club...
You dont' care about life...you want control over women....and you can't defined on that because you also want war you sorry sacks of shit...
BTW, for millions of us, your hypocrisy has proven THERE IS NO FUCKING GOD@@@
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12-26-2007, 02:41 PM
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One of my favorite quotes was years ago while doing a video documentary at a Planned Parenthood in Kansas City. Every Saturday there's a group of evangelist Christians who go to the facility & protest against women going there. While video taping this one group, This one man says "May the Rock of Jesus drop down & kill you. Praise the lord."
That said it all & still holds true to this day on every damn level about the idea of where life is 'valuable' to those that are defenders of the unborn.
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12-26-2007, 02:47 PM
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It is plain as day you must not have read one fucking thing i have wrote..I am against war. It is nothing but another form of population control..and a tool for enrichment by the power's that be.
I agree that children are abused every single day, so are adults. Forced prostitution and slavery still exists...But our current leader feels the urge to spend Billions on War.. I don't disagree with you about it, but trying to justify abortion because of abuse is wrong..most great leaders and motivational speakers come from horrible childhoods.
To deny the right to live is simply wrong..it's not about freedom..it's about life. and if that child is allowed to live what could that person grow up to be?...the next Martin luther king?..or (pick your favorite) person that could insipre millions towards a better way of life. We are all unique, we all have something to make this world a better place. To stop that in the womb is wrong, we have cheated ourselves out of the love of 40 million + Americans already..can't you even see that on the most narrowest of levels?
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As an O.B. doctor of thirty years, and having delivered 4,000 babies, I can assure you life begins at conception. I am legally responsible for the unborn, no matter what I do, so there's a legal life there. The unborn has inheritance rights, and if there's an injury or a killing, there is a legal entity. There is no doubt about it.
-Ron Paul
Source: 2007 GOP Values Voter Presidential Debate Sep 17, 2007
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12-26-2007, 02:51 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by migueld
It is plain as day you must not have read one fucking thing i have wrote..I am against war. It is nothing but another form of population control..and a tool for enrichment by the power's that be.
I agree that children are abused every single day, so are adults. Forced prostitution and slavery still exists...But our current leader feels the urge to spend Billions on War.. I don't disagree with you about it, but trying to justify abortion because of abuse is wrong..most great leaders and motivational speakers come from horrible childhoods.
To deny the right to live is simply wrong..it's not about freedom..it's about life. and if that child is allowed to live what could that person grow up to be?...the next Martin luther king?..or (pick your favorite) person that could insipre millions towards a better way of life. We are all unique, we all have something to make this world a better place. To stop that in the womb is wrong, we have cheated ourselves out of the love of 40 million + Americans already..can't you even see that on the most narrowest of levels?
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To follow the 'when life begins' to it's final conclusion. We should hold every singe sperm cell precious because it is alive & every single Female egg cell, because it's alive & precious. All of them are alive & could be a potential human.
So never waste your sperm & never let yourself bleed out that precious egg.
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12-26-2007, 02:56 PM
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Life begins at 40...or 180 MPH...wichever comes first.
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Everything you just said is total bullshit
Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-V8Ek...eature=related
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12-26-2007, 02:58 PM
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Life begins at 40...or 180 MPH...wichever comes first.
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Hehe. I've been to both...at roughly the same time....
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12-26-2007, 05:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by migueld
So her answer to this is what?.......murder? we were not talking about child sex slavery here. Just the simple fact that Abortion is murder. Don't try to deflect the argument about it by saying "well if they are allowed to live just look at what happens to them..."
For the record, i don't care what anybody does with there body. I do draw the line when you have ANOTHER LIVING PERSON IN IT THAT YOU WANT TO KILL.
Where is their rights?...who speaks up for them?...or is it until they are born they have no rights?....well just who in fuck can go around and deny rights to people that have not even been given the fucking chance to be born in the first place?
Why not wait until the child is born, then decide if they should live?...see it's much better to murder in the womb, then people can go around and bullshit themselves into thinking " it really wasn't murder"
Now this video shows what really happens under the cover of the womb..sick ain't it?..God Damn right it is....There is a term that should be used instead of abortion..it's called Genocide.
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Abortion is not murder when it occurs during first few months, which is the standard here in US. And, why should it bother you if a fetus is taken. I think the whole anti-abortion position is motivated by THE POSSIBILITY that the fetus develops into THE NEW MESSIAH, or do you want to decide when the soul enters the fetus?
The films are propaganda. Abortion has nothing to do with anyone but the individual woman. NOT EVEN HER DOCTOR. HORRORS!
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12-26-2007, 09:19 PM
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No problem with abortion; just don't want it to be government funded.
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