Roe v. Wade

Cookie Parker · #1 (**permalink**) 11-20-2007, 02:22 PM

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Roe v. Wade is the historic Supreme Court decision overturning a Texas interpretation of abortion law and making abortion legal in the United States. The Roe v. Wade decision held that a woman, with her doctor, could choose abortion in earlier months of pregnancy without restriction, and with restrictions in later months, based on the right to privacy.
Date of the Roe v. Wade decision: January 22, 1973.
Effect of the Roe v. Wade decision: All state laws limiting women's access to abortions during the first trimester of pregnancy were invalidated by Roe v. Wade. State laws limiting such access during the second trimester were upheld only when the restrictions were for the purpose of protecting the health of the pregnant woman. Roe v. Wade legalized abortion in the United States, which was not legal at all in many states and was limited by law in others.
Basis of the Roe v. Wade decision: Roe v. Wade was decided primarily on the Ninth Amendment to the United States Constitution, a part of the Bill of Rights. The Court's decision in this case was that the Ninth Amendment, in stating that "the enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people," protected a person's right to privacy.

How can this be wrong?

ONEWHITEDUCK · #2 (**permalink**) 11-20-2007, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Cookie Parker

Roe v. Wade - Overview

How can this be wrong?

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nathanbforrest45 · #3 (**permalink**) 11-20-2007, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Cookie Parker

Roe v. Wade - Overview

How can this be wrong?

I understand you could never comprehend how some can hold this concept but there are those who actually think that an unborn infant is actually a human being and therefore entitled to the most basic of rights, i.e. the right to life.

Silly isn't it to believe that an unborn infant is actually human. I mean, after all, it could be born a monkey or a Ford Mustang. We don't really know do we?

rob · #4 (**permalink**) 11-20-2007, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Cookie Parker

Roe v. Wade - Overview

How can this be wrong?

Cookie, this is one of the most divisive issues that this country has ever had to face. The reason that we will never all agree is like Nate said some believe that the fetus has a right to live. I myself am pro choice, because as a man I will never have to decide to have an abortion, will never understand the emotional strain that a decision like this causes. If a woman wants an abortion, go for it but I worry about the fathers rights and his right to be informed of this decision. Yes you can argue that it isn't his body, but his DNA helped cause the pregancy. also I am against goverment funds paying for it.

Cookie Parker · #5 (**permalink**) 11-20-2007, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by nathanbforrest45

I understand you could never comprehend how some can hold this concept but there are those who actually think that an unborn infant is actually a human being and therefore entitled to the most basic of rights, i.e. the right to life.

Silly isn't it to believe that an unborn infant is actually human. I mean, after all, it could be born a monkey or a Ford Mustang. We don't really know do we?

I know you can't understand the concept but the zygote and fetus aren't even brain alive until after the 3 rd month...what about the mother?

Cookie Parker · #6 (**permalink**) 11-20-2007, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by rob

Cookie, this is one of the most divisive issues that this country has ever had to face. The reason that we will never all agree is like Nate said some believe that the fetus has a right to live. I myself am pro choice, because as a man I will never have to decide to have an abortion, will never understand the emotional strain that a decision like this causes. If a woman wants an abortion, go for it but I worry about the fathers rights and his right to be informed of this decision. Yes you can argue that it isn't his body, but his DNA helped cause the pregancy. also I am against goverment funds paying for it.

No, the reason, IMHO, rob is that this is a patriarchal religious zealot nation that must have control over women in order to enforce the male manmade religion...it has nothing to do with life as has been demonstrated all over this board..it's about control. IF it were about life, no one would starve so that the white house administration could get more oil...all would have good healthcare and there would be no war...

rob · #7 (**permalink**) 11-20-2007, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Cookie Parker

I know you can't understand the concept but the zygote and fetus aren't even brain alive until after the 3 rd month...what about the mother?

Cookie, I would like to believe this but where is the link to prove this statement?

nathanbforrest45 · #8 (**permalink**) 11-20-2007, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Cookie Parker

No, the reason, IMHO, rob is that this is a patriarchal religious zealot nation that must have control over women in order to enforce the male manmade religion...it has nothing to do with life as has been demonstrated all over this board..it's about control. IF it were about life, no one would starve so that the white house administration could get more oil...all would have good healthcare and there would be no war...

Is it your belief that only men are opposed to abortion and only women are in favor of it? So in your mind the concept of life has no bearing on it whatsoever? Is it your belief that anyone who does not believe in abortion does believe in war and control etc etc, that I cannot be anti war and anti abortion at the same time?

Personally, I believe those of your particuliar mindset view abortion as a religious experience and like any religion logic and reason have no seat at the table. I believe its very easy to be a liberal, no thought processes are involved, no logic is necessary, no reason need apply.

Roe v Wade is not going anywhere in the near future, no matter who wins the white house in 08 so this argument from a poltical position is meaningless. However, from a moral position, I would hate to have to explain to God why I was in favor of murdering millions and millions of infants.

ONEWHITEDUCK · #9 (**permalink**) 11-20-2007, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by nathanbforrest45

Is it your belief that only men are opposed to abortion and only women are in favor of it? So in your mind the concept of life has no bearing on it whatsoever? Is it your belief that anyone who does not believe in abortion does believe in war and control etc etc, that I cannot be anti war and anti abortion at the same time?

Personally, I believe those of your particuliar mindset view abortion as a religious experience and like any religion logic and reason have no seat at the table. I believe its very easy to be a liberal, no thought processes are involved, no logic is necessary, no reason need apply.

Roe v Wade is not going anywhere in the near future, no matter who wins the white house in 08 so this argument from a poltical position is meaningless. However, from a moral position, I would hate to have to explain to God why I was in favor of murdering millions and millions of infants.

THAT 2 IN YOUR FAVOR.....keep going and I'll have to apoligize or something.

Heckler · #10 (**permalink**) 11-20-2007, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by rob

Cookie, I would like to believe this but where is the link to prove this statement?

Yeah, I don't know how they would prove when the brain is capable of thought....

but it does take some time to develop.....it isn't there at inception.