How "Pro-Life" is all about anti-choice for women

oceanbreeze · #31 (**permalink**) 11-11-2007, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Cookie Parker

Ge...and in those 22 years you have been married and on the welfare of insurance from this nation while being the wife of a military person.

You are unbelievably naive, OB....you can't tell me you have not met the gamut of persons in the military...from every walk of life with every value system from those walks of life....where is this generation more perfect than others? Please explain that...

You may be God, OB, and capable of judging everyone in their lives and setting that judgment on what their responsibilities should be and their punishment should be, but I don't believe in God and don't think you have the right to reign over anyone else's life without assuming financial responsibility for doing so.

Welfare? We've never been on welfare. I worked 70-80 hours per week before we had the kids. What a joke.

Cookie Parker · #32 (**permalink**) 11-11-2007, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by rob

For your information, I am pro choice but I am against public funds being used for the purpose of abortion. Hell every county health department will freely give birth control out when asked. I am also going on record to say that I am opposed to any universal healthcare plan that I have read about. If the goverment wants to help, let them tell the insurance lobby that they are being required to provide affordable healthcare to all that need it.

Well, if you're against equal access to medical care, you're certainly NOT pro-choice, rob.

Cookie Parker · #33 (**permalink**) 11-11-2007, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by oceanbreeze

Welfare? We've never been on welfare. I worked 70-80 hours per week before we had the kids. What a joke.

You bet it's welfare iIF your husband is in the service....who do you think pays you your check? Bush and his family fortunes? For that matter, who do you think pays Bush?

As to when you had your kids...you say that now, but present yourself as a lifer's wife...which is it?

And, God, just so you know, I won't believe what you say anyway....you change your story all the time..

oceanbreeze · #34 (**permalink**) 11-11-2007, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Cookie Parker

You bet it's welfare iIF your husband is in the service....who do you think pays you your check? Bush and his family fortunes? For that matter, who do you think pays Bush?

As to when you had your kids...you say that now, but present yourself as a lifer's wife...which is it?

And, God, just so you know, I won't believe what you say anyway....you change your story all the time..

Cookie. The disdain that is spouted about America's service members is repulsing. Those words are only allowed because of past, present, and future military members.

I'm not sure what my spouse is doing 60-70 hours a week, playing chess? I'm not sure what he did for 12 months in Iraq, that's right, he helped build the Iraqi judicial system.

I am sure BEFORE the kids I worked 70-80 hours a week, 2 jobs, we had one car, and lived in a modest apartment. I am responsible for my behavior and DAMNED if I pay for anyone elses mistakes or healthcare.

Cookie Parker · #35 (**permalink**) 11-11-2007, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by oceanbreeze

Cookie. The disdain that is spouted about America's service members is repulsing. Those words are only allowed because of past, present, and future military members.

I'm not sure what my spouse is doing 60-70 hours a week, playing chess? I'm not sure what he did for 12 months in Iraq, that's right, he helped build the Iraqi judicial system.

I am sure BEFORE the kids I worked 70-80 hours a week, 2 jobs, we had one car, and lived in a modest apartment. I am responsible for my behavior and DAMNED if I pay for anyone elses mistakes or healthcare.

This is about abortion and the rights of all Americans to have equal access to health care. Military personnel have insurance coverage which is provided to them from the tax payers. That is a reality.

I care nothing for you personally nor your holier than thou stand on the closer to heaven quality of your life than another persons. You don't interest me at all.

You fail to provide any argument here which substantiates anything of value in the argument...as is true here and elsewhere, you troll for words to start fights and that's detestable. I understand you are NOT a Christian and do not feel as though people should have rights if they are poor. That comes across loud and clear. and as far as paying for anyone else's mistakes, I guess you don't mind paying through your taxes for the Bush twins to go to alcohol and drug rehab all the time on your dime...oh wait, you're military...you're living off my dime...

Realist1 · #36 (**permalink**) 11-11-2007, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Cookie Parker

No, let me explain something...the right to choose is NOT based upon income...and since this country adopts a for porfit health care plan, the rich should not be the only ones who can get abortions, get surgery, get help wiht anything....the anti-choice crowd pushes to get rid of health care for the poor and make bombs to kill children all over the world..sorry, but in America, the rights to freedom is given to all.....and just as men on welfare can get viagra, so, too should the right to make your own medical decisions be given to all regardless of income.

If, and when you feel you're capable of sticking to one topic at a time, without rambling,,, we'll continue the conversation on your insistence that we all provide you with funds for an abortion.

Try to focus a little better Cookie.

Cookie Parker · #37 (**permalink**) 11-11-2007, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Realist1

If, and when you feel you're capable of sticking to one topic at a time, without rambling,,, we'll continue the conversation on your insistence that we all provide you with funds for an abortion.

Try to focus a little better Cookie.

It is topic focused...pro-choice...which is what the article reveals, includes decisions for all persons...healthcare in this nation is for profit so that the more money you have, the better the health care coverage you get.

Anti-choice people OFTEN claim the poor should not have access to what they wealthy get by saying THEY won't pay for abortion.

Now, Dom1, let's see...you have not addressed one issue of abortion, pro-choice, commented on any of the topics at all, but instead have tried to derail this entire conversation..especially as it gets to a real discussion..course, I know you don't have the ability to discuss but just troll...and I love pointing it out...you're an easy mark for people capable of discussions to view as incapable of thought.

gixaholic · #38 (**permalink**) 11-11-2007, 06:52 PM

lets look at the premise of this post.... and lets say cookie you are right.... the following is 100% completly true....

How "Pro-Life" is all about anti-choice for women

But once again i want to go baxk to the roote of this statement.... What are these women choosing..... what is there choice....

Well... give up... ok i will tell you...

Choice #1... keep the baby.

choice #2... kill the baby " i know you libbs dont see it as killing(i was once a liberal to).... but it really is killing.... because if an abortion doesn't happen there is life..... but when it does there isn't life.......

#39 (**permalink**) 11-11-2007, 07:20 PM

cookie pro-choice is held by those who never have had an abortion, miscarried, or lost a child I assume you have never been pregnant.

justme · #40 (**permalink**) 11-11-2007, 07:46 PM

Why is it that "allegedly" intelligent women (kookie) presume to speak for intelligent women (OB, in this case) and then the "allegedly" intelligent, tolerant, and diverse woman gets all pissed off when the intelligent woman doesn't agree with her stance on an issue?
Lefty was famous for that. Pointing out to other women how only her views of womanhood was acceptable.