Actually, I agree with you quite a bit. However, there are still many instances of Foster care being a nightmare, especially since privatization. In some instances, it has become little more than a business with little consideration for the child. A child should not become a consumer good.

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No I do not support abortions. Couldn't even abort a litter of puppies recently.

But I also do not support murder, incest , beating or starving a child. Kicking animals . Stealing, Liars, or crooked politicians .

I don't support divorce , or kids with smart mouths who don't listen to their parents. I don't support birth control or corporate welfare.

Doesn't mean I can stop any of the above things.

Morality cannot be legislated .

Murder, abortion , stealing , homosexuality, bad politicians , divorce , kids who do not listen to their parents all are discussed in the bible , time and time again. And that was 2000 years ago. Until God has had enough , and stops it, all these things will still go on in the world .

There is nothing men can do to stop all these bad things from happening. Only God can change the world .

We as followers of Christ's are to model our Lord and show love to the world , not condemnation and not approval of its sins. We are to show the love of Christ and nothing less will do.


And yes idiot boy Nate , wanting to outlaw abortion and then not wanting to educate and feed the child once its born is very, very hypocritical of you. I think you know that though, don't you Nate? I am sure in fact that you do.

You just like to argue and act stupid as evidenced by your " Child labor is a good thing " thread you started on this forum. I got your number now Nate.

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What percentage of children in foster care are abused or mistreated? 50% 60% 90%?????

Obviously there are issues in some cases with foster care. But to paint with a broad brush all foster parents as abusers or potential abusers is criminal. Its like painting all Catholic priest as pedeophiles. Out of 10,000 priest in this county a very small percentage were proven to be so, maybe 1 tenth of 1 percent. If you had 100 $20.00 bills in your wallet and discovered that one of them was a counterfeit would you throw away the other 99 just in case? By ending foster care because of a few bad apples is the same idea.

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Read a little history.

That was the way this country dealt with so called "charity cases " in the beginning. They were farmed out by charities to be farm hands and unpaid labor for people who had very little concern for the child , they just wanted the free work.

If idiots like Nate get their way , we will go back to those days. And trust me , being involved in the system like I am , the system now is not great , but it is better than it was when it was run solely by so called "charities."

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The issue is abortion not incest or anything else. You sound like you are one of those "Well I would never have one but I wouldn't tell you you can't have one" And that dearie is a fraud.

Peach, I don't expect someone of your limited reasoning abilities to understand my post on child labor. You want the government to do everything. I think you would even call in the government to wipe your ass if you could. Think about what I post rather than immediately jump on your socialistic Mother Jones horse and pretend you are saving the world when all you are really doing is condemning them to a life of misery and poverty.

And I have your number, you are a collectivist who is incapable of success so you want to destroy anyone's opportunity to be successful.

You are also a liar about your christianity and your holiness. You are a fraud. At least Cookie Parker doesn't pretend to be anything other than what she is and for that I respect her. You on the other hand gain only my complete contempt

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Talk about fraud 's Nate . You take the prize with faud nate .

Okay lets give you the chance to prove yourself nate.

Gather the statistics about yearly charitable contributions in this country.

Not the ear marked ones . Not the ones that are ear marked for education or research or college endowments.

Gather the statistics on charitable giving for the poor and we will take into account the fact people would give more if they paid fewer taxes , then we will triple the yearly charitable giving for the poor, sick and father less and take a look at if the charities could step in and take over where tax payer dollars are now being spent.

I am waiting Nate you chicken shit. I see through your ruse as usual , you have opened your mouth without having the slightest clue about what you are talking about .

I'll wait Nate back your argument up , or shut up.
But stop changing the subject . Thats either a bad habit you learned from Dom or you are Dom.

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It's funny Nate that was the FIRST sentence that popped into my head when I read that statement from Peach.

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Nate

Little primer here for you.

Is murder wrong?...........Lets assume you get that right and say yes.

Is incest wrong?.... Again lets assume you get that right and say yes.

Is greed wrong ? .... Again lets assume you reach way down in that numb brain of yours and say yes.

Is abortion a worse crime than murder of a new born baby?

Is insect perpetrated against a 2 year old bad Nate?

There in is the connection nate. I know its hard for a uneducated , nonsensical person like you Nate. But many bad things happen in this world every day. As you read this Nate somebody is being murdered or staving to death . And there is not a thing you or I can do about it Nate.

That is the moral of the story Nate. Think real hard and you'll eventually get it.

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Your argument makes no sense. I called you on it once but you ran away then, like yo uno doubt will now as well.

You argue that we still have murder, rape, etc, although we have laws against them so we cannot legislate morality. THAT is the reasoning you use to not outlaw abortion . . . . because people still commit immoral acts. Under that rationale you just gave then we should also not have laws against murder and rape since they will happen anway.

Now Billy or lerch or whoever, for once back up what you say and quit running away.

Speaking of backing up words Billy (lerch), I remember a wager you were wanting to make a while back. Why don't you take your own advice and either back up your words or admit you are wrong Billy.

Here ya go Billy, I thought I would quote it again just to see you run away. That is your MO.