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01-04-2008, 12:51 PM
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TAKE IT FROM A RENEGADE
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THERE IS SPIRIT........IT IS THE SPARK OF LIFE.
IT BEGINS WHEN UNIVERSAL EVENTS (GOD) JOINS SPRM AND EGG.......NO HUMAN CAN CLASSIFY THAT AS A MISTAKE WITHOUT USURPING GOD
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01-04-2008, 12:55 PM
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How typical , you are going to drop out of this discussion because as usual you have no education or facts to back up your statements .
I don't like abortion , but I am smart enough to know it is not killing a baby . But then again I have done my homework to figure that out.
I'm not like Nate who would swear it never snows in the mountains , if somebody told him that and he bought it. I do not make uneducated emotional responses with no facts to back them up , that is Nates MO.
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George I think I am going to drop out of this discussion because we are speaking two separate languages here. I believe, and nothing will convince me otherwise, that a "zygote" is a human being and you are taking a human life when you abort. You don't and nothing will convince you otherwise (at least at this time, at one time I thought the same as you, I have since changed my mind)
So, I am not conceding defeat or running away, just recognizing that any further discussion is pointless
Have a good New Year
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01-04-2008, 12:56 PM
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Sorry Peach Shit.....as Long As You Ignore Me Your Posts Are Not Complete
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That goes for Ideas, institutions as well as individuals :-I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUncnWxjUXM
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PSI TECH INVESTIGATIONS and LAW ENFORCEMENT
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01-04-2008, 12:56 PM
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And you might as well forget it Nate , whenever you start to spout half baked lies , I am going to be on you.
For awhile at least I think its time somebody insisted you tell the truth .
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01-04-2008, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by George O Well
Nate, I think abortion is unnatural and disgusting. I dislike it profoundly and have never counseled my wife or anyone I know to have one. I just don't believe it's my decision and don't like the idea of government intervening in what I believe to be a very personal matter.
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George, I agree, I don't think the government should interfer. I think that is exactly what happened with Roe v Wade. I think the government claiming it to be a God Given right has put an end to the moral debate (this is exactly what the Constitution provides, after all did not the Founding Fathers claim that our rights were endowed by our Creator, therefore any right we have is God, Creator if you wish, given.) I cannot believe our Creator, whatever his form would grant the right to destroy the unborn.
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01-04-2008, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by wvpeach
And you might as well forget it Nate , whenever you start to spout half baked lies , I am going to be on you.
For awhile at least I think its time somebody insisted you tell the truth .
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Post away, it won't matter because I am putting you, along with your sister Cookie and your brother FEdup back on ignore. In my humble opinion you are a tool of Satan and truthfully the best way to resist evil is to avoid it. And make no mistake, I consider you as evil as they come. I think someone like Cookie has sexual identify problems and that is what is driving her hatred of men and conservative values. You on the other hand pretend to be a true Christian and are as far removed from the Word of God as any human can possibly be. You hide in the shadows and pretend to be telling the guilible what God wants us to do. Don't pay attention to that bible you say, its not even worth given any respect. It was written to be interpreted any way anyone wishes. Don't think that god wants you to defend the least among us, thats all a lie or a parable.
You are disgustingly evil.
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01-04-2008, 02:53 PM
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However this debate gets decided, there are still going to be millions of abortions every year. And among those who are going to have them are the wives, daughters and girlfriends of rightwing politicans and outspoken evangelicals. Sex happens.
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01-04-2008, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by George O Well
However this debate gets decided, there are still going to be millions of abortions every year. And among those who are going to have them are the wives, daughters and girlfriends of rightwing politicans and outspoken evangelicals. Sex happens.
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another good reality post.You are right.
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01-05-2008, 12:51 AM
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Hey George and all
Excluding, the morning after pill and the ru 486, most abortions are not performed on a zygote. They are at about 6 weeks along. George, the heart is beating at 21 days. Do hearts beat in "potential" human beings? So, I assume you would say no. A heart beats in a human being. Therefore, following your reasoning you would then maybe be only supportive of the abortifacient pills...yes?
Have you ever seen any images of a six week old in uterus? I hadn’t until a few years back, which is what helped my change of heart and mind.
Also, Peach, I kinda have my hands full right now and have already been on too long. I want to deal with your posts specifically when I can concentrate...just one thing about the other thread I had posted on being a lady...I stopped participating because of the ad hominem and vulgar attacks..so I haven't and will not be going back to that thread. We have looked into homeschooling and totally are against tv in the bedrooms...only DVD for the kids so they can watch the Veggie Tales and other good videos...
Sorry for the digression
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01-05-2008, 09:41 AM
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Good for you joyful woman
Each of my kids got a TV and VCR in their bedrooms for their 13th birthdays . That way they could watch movies , but I could control what was watched still on the cable in the family room.
My youngest son at 26 still likes to go to sleep he admits to the movie the butter cream gang , a movie much like the little rascals but with young teenaged characters .
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Originally Posted by Joyfulwoman
Hey George and all
Excluding, the morning after pill and the ru 486, most abortions are not performed on a zygote. They are at about 6 weeks along. George, the heart is beating at 21 days. Do hearts beat in "potential" human beings? So, I assume you would say no. A heart beats in a human being. Therefore, following your reasoning you would then maybe be only supportive of the abortifacient pills...yes?
Have you ever seen any images of a six week old in uterus? I hadn’t until a few years back, which is what helped my change of heart and mind.
Also, Peach, I kinda have my hands full right now and have already been on too long. I want to deal with your posts specifically when I can concentrate...just one thing about the other thread I had posted on being a lady...I stopped participating because of the ad hominem and vulgar attacks..so I haven't and will not be going back to that thread. We have looked into homeschooling and totally are against tv in the bedrooms...only DVD for the kids so they can watch the Veggie Tales and other good videos...
Sorry for the digression
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