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12-28-2007, 02:08 PM
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so now we are even confused about the Word of God and his Book, the Holy Bible.
You are a fake, a phony and a fraud.
You are about as Christian as Saddam was
You are beneath contempt.
You will have to answer to God one day but no longer will you blot my vision
Begone Satan
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12-28-2007, 02:30 PM
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Nate , Nate , nate
I must say I am disappointed in you. This is the same thing you do every time you and I talk and you have no truthful responses of your own. You refuse to talk and run away . Okay if that is how you want it , so be it.
Truth be told Nate , its apparent you really know nothing about the bible . You are like all the other wanna be's regurgitating whatever you have heard about the holy word , but never having taken the time to study it yourself.
Shame on you Nate . I would think the one subject in life that is worthy of study to anybody calling themselves a christian is God's holy word. The fact that you know nothing about the bible proves to me that you are among the anti christs that seem to be taking over the world now days.
If you ever decide you don't want to be a anti christ nate and want to study what the bible says .............let me know , I will be glad to help.
In the mean time let me warn you, that when you spread the lies of Satan as you do ( doesn't matter if you do it on purpose or out of ignorance) When you spread the lies of Satan , you can count on me to tell the truth about what the bible really says.
That's right Nate , because I am a servant of the Lord Jesus Christ and a daughter of God it is my job to tell the truth about what the bible says.
So if you continue letting Satan deceive you , that's your problem. But don't expect me to remain quiet while you try to deceive others with your un biblical lies and half truths.
Nate , like I said , if you ever stop running away from the truth like a child when confronted with it, let me know. I will be glad to study what the bible really says with you.
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Originally Posted by nathanbforrest45
so now we are even confused about the Word of God and his Book, the Holy Bible.
You are a fake, a phony and a fraud.
You are about as Christian as Saddam was
You are beneath contempt.
You will have to answer to God one day but no longer will you blot my vision
Begone Satan
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12-28-2007, 02:37 PM
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The big lie is that the right is against abortion. If they really believed it was murder, condoms and birth control would be handed out for free in every church and school in the nation. The right is just too stupid to make the leap that sex can result in pregnancy.
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12-28-2007, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by navyvet50
The big lie is that the right is against abortion. If they really believed it was murder, condoms and birth control would be handed out for free in every church and school in the nation. The right is just too stupid to make the leap that sex can result in pregnancy.
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I guess that means we are pro murder as well since we don't hand out bullet proof vest at those places as well.
What an absurd post. You need to go back in the Navy where your talents as a deck ape would be better appreciated
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12-28-2007, 03:16 PM
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There is only one very small group of people who determine what is Constitutional and what is not, and the last time I looked YOU, miqweed, that other paid poster, and Ron Paul, were not in that group. So forgive me if I refuse to accept your premises.
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I believe the Constitution determines what is Constitutional...
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12-28-2007, 03:20 PM
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I believe the Constitution determines what is Constitutional...
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Actually, its the Supreme Court that determines if a specific action is constitutional.
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12-28-2007, 03:22 PM
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Actually, its the Supreme Court that determines if a specific action is constitutional.
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It is what they are supposed to do. Sadly, they are negligent in that duty.
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12-28-2007, 03:22 PM
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New documentary takes unflinching look at abortion in US
WHO'S NEWS ??????
CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT AGAINST CIA/MEDIA VIOLATION OF FIRST AMENDMENT-RIGHT TO A FREE PRESS Petition
THE MEDIAS NEWS ????
guess what media :-O
LAWSUIT FILED IN UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT,DISTRICT OF COLORADO,CASE NO 05CV1598 OES JEFF WILLIAMSON VS UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,CIA DIRECTOR PORTER GOSS, AND MEDIA DEFENDANTS-CALL NOW TO RECIEVE YOUR COPY OF LAWSUIT AND TEMPORARY RESTRAINING ORDER PH 303-844-3433.THIS CONCERNS ALL 50 STATES AND EVERY US CITIZEN IS THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.YOU CAN FILE A CASE IN YOUR STATE TOO FOR FIRST AMENDMENT VIOLATIONS.
THERE IS A GLOBAL COMMERCIAL MEDIA SYSTEM DOMINATED BY A SMALL NUMBER OF SUPER-POWERFUL TRANSNATIONAL MEDIA CORPORATIONS (MOSTLY US BASED),WORKING TO ADVANCE THE CAUSE OF THE GLOBAL MARKETS AND THE CIA AGENDA.( CIA SECRET PROJECT CALLED "OPERATION MOCKINGBIRD"),THE CIA CONTROLLED MEDIA AND/OR MEDIA MANIPULATION IN VIOLATION OF THE FIRST AMENDMENT-RIGHT TO A FREE PRESS CONCERNING ALL 50 STATES AND EVERY AMERICAN CITIZEN IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
The Media
Journalism is a perfect cover for CIA agents. People talk freely to journalists, and few think suspiciously of a journalist aggressively searching for information. Journalists also have power, influence and clout. Not surprisingly, the CIA began a mission in the late 1940s to recruit American journalists on a wide scale, a mission it dubbed Operation MOCKINGBIRD. The agency wanted these journalists not only to relay any sensitive information they discovered, but also to write anti-communist, pro-capitalist propaganda when needed.
Makow - The 'Quiet War' Against Humanity The Lulling Before the Culling
GUESS WHAT MEDIA :-)
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12-28-2007, 03:27 PM
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I guess that means we are pro murder as well since we don't hand out bullet proof vest at those places as well.
What an absurd post. You need to go back in the Navy where your talents as a deck ape would be better appreciated
Wow you are for murder and you hate the military. Can you argue that I am wrong? Oh, you cannot, so you insult my service. You sign up, or are you like most neocons, all talk no service.
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12-28-2007, 05:36 PM
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Here we go again , some people have been persuaded not to kill based on societies laws . But I imagine those people are a lot like you eternal footman.
The people who do not kill because of laws , care about their own lives and don't want to take the chance on getting caught and spending life in prison.
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You asked, I answered and now you contradict yourself. Do you not see that?
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Yet we still have lots of people in jail who have murdered other people and who are they? They come from every walk of life. Doctors , lawyers , retards, mothers , kids . People still murder and they do it in large numbers .
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As if this is new info to anybody above the age of 2. What is your point?
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The State Department and FBI have some great web sites on the murder rate and violent crime rate in the US . Seems they say just over 16,000 people were killed by murder in the US last year. Now keep in mind that number does not include the people who somebody attempted to murder but they lived. Nor does that number include the people who were victims of violent assaults . Anyone who has ever been knocked in the head by a mugger will tell you that mugger could have killed them and keeping them alive was not the concern of the mugger , or he would not have knocked them in the head in the first place. Nobody ever said muggers are smart people .
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I don't give a shit about muggers and neither does this thread. And by the way, those babies who have survived doctors' attempts at abortion. . .well, those babies aren't tallied up as aborted.
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So its apparent eternal footman that even though we have a law against murder and other violent crimes it only deters the law abiding . The low lifes, and stupid among the population are not deterred by laws.
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That's a pretty picture you paint, albeit black and white. And yes even career criminals are deterred by the punishment established by law. Too suggest otherwise is unfathomable.
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Now fast forward to abortion . A look at abortion really means you have to look at the rates of unmarried sexual encounters in the US. When last I heard at least 20 states still had laws on the books against fornication. Granted nowadays most are not enforced. But some state governments still use illegal co habitation as a reason to not hire somebody . And a look down through the pages of history will tell you that fornication laws used to be seriously prosecuted and punished. At the beginning of the rowdy 1930"s in the US courts were full of fornication prosecution cases. But it didn't stop people from fornicating. In fact I think its safe to say that people have fornicated more ever since.
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Your point is people fuck more, regardless of laws. Whatever, at least you're back on topic but abortion is not exclusive to unwed couples of any age.
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The same is true of the murder rate. They will say the rate decreased for the last few years . But they are using the murder rate per capita in the US . In fact each year there are more murders , because there are more people . Per Capita is just a way to make it sound nice and make cowards feel better.
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THe operative word is RATE. Get it?
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Sex and conception is a age old problem. The bible talks about immoral sex a lot , because it was happening even way back then. men were visiting prostitutes. Biblical prostitutes not having very reliable birth control methods, you can bet were having abortions. Men were stealing other mens wifes and getting them pregnant and then doing away with babies because they did not want to get caught.
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Who gives a damn. The topic is abortion not the history of premarital sex or prostitution. Those topics are married but different nonetheless.
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The bible says correctly " there is no new thing under the sun, what is , has been and what was , will come again"
People act like abortion and immorality is a new thing. I can tell you with out a doubt both have always existed with mankind. And will always continue , until God ends the world as we know it.
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I think everyone knows this already. Again, what is your point? Stating the obvious does not in any way support your position.
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And if your one of those who thinks the US will be punished for its tolerance of immorality . Then let me offer you this scenario . I agree God is going to punish the US for its immorality . But that immorality didn't just crop up in the 20th century. We slaughtered the Indians to steal their land , then we enslaved black people for a century and killed them at will. I agree we are now not exactly a moral country and the saying " one nation under God" is a joke as we don't keep those words at all. But as a nation we never have.
Statistics were not kept about the numbers of Indians or slaves that were killed per year back then. But we do know that over 600,000 abortions are performed in the US each year. Add to that number who knows how many thousands of babies are tossed in the trash at fertility clinics . And its a symptom of a callous nation where life is concerned.
But I can easily see 600,000 Indians a year having been killed for the first several years we took this country over. And with slaves who knows , many , many were killed or things even worse than death done to them.
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Holy fucking tangent. This is just weird.
So before we claim the moral high ground as a nation , we might want to go back and at least apologize for all the deaths we inflicted decades ago , don't you think?[/quote]
I'm speechless. You, Billy, are a brilliant debater. Keep up the good work.
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