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05-21-2008, 02:52 PM
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I am so happy that the Kennedy is dying.
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05-22-2008, 04:52 AM
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05-22-2008, 07:14 AM
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there is no awareness of pain until week 14. almost no abortions are preformed when a fetus can feel and think.
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According to the CDC, the gutmacher institute, and family planning, about 11% of all abortions are performed after week 14. That amounts to about 110,000 per year. Describe how 110,000 chidren per year dying in the agony of being torn limb from limb represents almost none.
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05-22-2008, 07:19 AM
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Yea sorry that's bullshit.
I'm for equal rights, not fucking domination.
If there's one thing that pisses me off equal to Christian-conservative fundamentalists, it's Feminazis.
Shut your fucking mouth about how much "smarter" and "superior" than men you think you are. The two genders are equal (in my eyes), and each have general strengths and weakness's.
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Feminazi? Awesome....Read more of my posts and you will know where I stand on this issue of men vs. women.... It was a joke, don't go gettin' yer jock strap all in a wad... Jeeesh.
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05-22-2008, 07:20 AM
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According to the CDC, the gutmacher institute, and family planning, about 11% of all abortions are performed after week 14. That amounts to about 110,000 per year. Describe how 110,000 chidren per year dying in the agony of being torn limb from limb represents almost none.
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You mean they can't live outside of the mother's body??? Geeze, who knew? 
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05-22-2008, 07:22 AM
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Actually, as I posted before, the Pain Institute concluded that a fetus feels nothing until week 24.... I posted those findings on some thread about abortion.... Look it up.
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05-22-2008, 07:36 AM
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Actually, as I posted before, the Pain Institute concluded that a fetus feels nothing until week 24.... I posted those findings on some thread about abortion.... Look it up.
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RIght....Your study was conducted by doctors who make their living doing abortions and oddly enough, it is the only study that suggests that they don't feel pain until so late. Wonder why.
Feeling pain isn't what makes us living human beings though and so the point is irrelavent. Can you prove that they are not living human beings?
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05-22-2008, 07:38 AM
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You mean they can't live outside of the mother's body??? Geeze, who knew? 
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Can you provide some legal precedent suggesting that dependence is a valid reason to kill another human being?
Your argument fails on every level naturemoma, why don't you come up with at least something that approaches a valid argument?
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05-22-2008, 07:44 AM
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RIght....Your study was conducted by doctors who make their living doing abortions and oddly enough, it is the only study that suggests that they don't feel pain until so late. Wonder why.
Feeling pain isn't what makes us living human beings though and so the point is irrelavent. Can you prove that they are not living human beings?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaleRider
According to the CDC, the gutmacher institute, and family planning, about 11% of all abortions are performed after week 14. That amounts to about 110,000 per year. Describe how 110,000 chidren per year dying in the agony of being torn limb from limb represents almost none.
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Hey look paleface, there's you bringing pain into the argument...
And for the record, the research I posted was by the American Pain Society, they do not perform abortions, dipshit!!!!
Here's the study....
American Pain Society – Fetal Pain A Look at the Evidence
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05-22-2008, 07:50 AM
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Can you provide some legal precedent suggesting that dependence is a valid reason to kill another human being?
Your argument fails on every level naturemoma, why don't you come up with at least something that approaches a valid argument?
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You are the one claiming that the fetus is seperate from it's mother.... If 'it' is so seperate, then why can't a fetus live outside of her body? It can't. It's not seperate. The mothers body, in conjunction with fetus, turns into a host site for the fetus. It all works together to form a perfect union, one that the fetus cannot live without.
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