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View Poll Results: Should abortion be legal throughout the US?
Yes, under any circumstances 8 19.51%
Yes, but not for late-term abortions 16 39.02%
Yes, but only in the case of rape or incest 5 12.20%
No, it should be decided by each state 3 7.32%
No, abortion should be illegal everywhere 8 19.51%
No opinion 1 2.44%
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Old 11-05-2005, 09:36 PM
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With the Supreme Court now in a state of flux, the issue of Roe vs. Wade (that is, the legality of abortion) is once again in the news and has people wondering.

Personally, I am pro-abortion (but against late-term abortions) but have often felt torn on the issue between my heart and my head. I've known friends who have gone through terrible trauma deciding what to do on the issue and just am thankful that I myself have not had to face such a choice.

But with Sandra Day O'Connor (moderate and a woman to boot!) gone from the Supreme Court and the very conservative Samuel Alito in her place, the issue is almost certain to come up for challenge again before too long.

This is such a hot topic, with doctors and medical workers being killed and clinics bombed by pro-life activists, that I would hate to see it come to the forefront again - I just know there would be more bombings and more murders.

Does anyone else think the Roe vs. Wade issue will come up again once the new Court has been filled?
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Old 11-07-2005, 02:29 AM
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I hope the issue comes up again in the Supreme Court and this time they overturn Roe vs. Wade. I am completely against abortion in any case ... we're talking about murdering unborn children.

If a woman doesn't want the child, there are plenty of people waiting desperately to adopt infants. I understand it might be difficult to go through a pregnancy caused by rape or incest, but a life is a life. Of course the rapist and/or family member who committed this crime should be punished to the full extent of the law, but I believe the woman should realize that it's just something she's going to have to go through rather than kill the baby. IMO, that makes her no better than any other person who commits murder.

I know I'll probably get blasted for my opinion because it's not too popular these days, but I've always felt this way and I don't think anything will change my mind. I don't agree with bombing clinics and shooting doctors or anything outside the law, but I am definitely against abortion for any reason.
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Old 11-09-2005, 12:21 AM
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I think abortion should remain legal, except for late-term abortions. I know that some women say they didn't realize they were pregnant until they were six months along, but that seems kind of unlikely to me. Not being a woman, I guess I can't have a definitive opinion on that, but how could you not realize you were pregnant for more than six months? Even if that were possible, I don't know how anyone could go through with an abortion at that late point anyway. It must be a horrendous experience because, as I understand it, you have to go through labor once the unborn child (even though I'm pro-abortion I can't think of a child that technically could survive outside the womb with all the technology we have today as a "fetus") is dead via saline injection or whatever it is they use these days to commit this type of procedure.

I also can't help but wonder what kind of doctor would even perform a late-term abortion when it is not medically necessary?

I don't think Roe vs. Wade will ever be overturned in the Supreme Court. Our country has come too far in accepting abortion in the last 20 years or so that I just cannot imagine the majority opinion shifting towards banning it again.
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Old 11-09-2005, 11:37 PM
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I believe in Roe vs. Wade and hope it's not overturned or the language of the decision changed to weaken it.

I'm not saying I take it lightly and I do not regularly perform the procedure, but I believe in the right to choose to terminate an early pregnancy, prior to viability when a child could live on its own. I don't believe that women who undergo abortions escape without regrets, feelings of guilt, and various other thoughts that may haunt them the rest of their lives, and that is suffering enough.
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Old 11-13-2005, 05:43 PM
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Thanks, medguy, for expressing the fact that I think a lot of people, (especially guys) just don't get -- abortion is not an easy choice for anyone, especially for the woman undergoing the procedure.

Whether or not you believe it is a human being you are destroying or just a collection of cells, deep down every woman knows that an abortion destroys a "potential child" if nothing else. Left to their own, this group of cells would in all likelihood, barring anything naturally going wrong, develop into a healthy baby. And now woman that I have known through my life who supports abortion rights sees it any other way ... they realize the severity of what they are doing, but they also believe, as I do, that they have the right to decide what happens to their own bodies.

Yeah, yeah, yeah .... they should have thought about that before they had sex, but how about the guy involved? Shouldn't he have thought about it too? I know this can raise a hornet's nest of debate about guys having girlfriends not telling them they were pregnant and just going ahead with an abortion when they wanted children, but that's a whole other debate.

I still believe women have the right to choose to terminate a pregnancy at any time up to viability. It is a hard thing to go through at any time, but as viability becomes earlier and earlier in the term of a pregnancy, women have to face up to the reality and decide early.

It's not only better for them physically and less likely to rile up the right-wingers out there, but it's also better for you psychologically ... if you undergo an abortion in the second term or at 5 months say, you are going to be emotionally scarred by the results, no matter how much you do not want to follow through with the pregnancy. I think medguy probably could explain it better than me ... I've just had to shore up friends who have put off the decision too long and then been more shattered than if they had decided earlier.
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Old 12-24-2005, 11:00 PM
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Don't You Feel That The Father Of The Baby Has A Right To Know And Have A Say In The Decision? Your Correct That The Men Need To Accept Responsibility Equally As Far As Birth Control But The Women Need To Understand That The Men Have Just As Much Right To Have An Equal Say In What Happens To The Child, By The Way What Is Considered The Current Limit Of Viability Now?
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Old 12-28-2005, 05:01 PM
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The problem with giving the father a right to have a say in the decision is that he doesn't have to bear the burden of the child for 9 months. It's his genetic material, but it's just that. The woman needs to ultimately have the sole control over that decision. If she decides to have the baby, then I agree that a father should have equal rights - if he wants to be a father to his child, we should let him. But until the woman has made that decision, she should have control over her own body.
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Old 12-30-2005, 11:03 PM
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The problem with giving the father a right to have a say in the decision is that he doesn't have to bear the burden of the child for 9 months. It's his genetic material, but it's just that. The woman needs to ultimately have the sole control over that decision. If she decides to have the baby, then I agree that a father should have equal rights - if he wants to be a father to his child, we should let him. But until the woman has made that decision, she should have control over her own body.
WRONG, IF THE WOMEN MAKES A INFORMED DECISION TO HAVE UNPROTECTED SEX THAN SHE IS DE FACTO GIVING UP CONTROL OF HER BODY FOR THE NEXT 9 MONTHS IS SHE GETS PREGNANT. THE BABY CAN'T MAKE A DECISION BUT IF THE FATHER IS THERE AND WANTS HIS RIGHTS HE SHOULD BE ABLE TO SUPPORT HER THROUGH THE PREGNANCY AND HAVE THE BABY PRESENTED TO HIM. THIS IS FAR BETTER THAN THE WOMAN KILLING THE BABY BECAUSE SHE CHANGES HER MIND OR HAS A BLOND MOMENT :
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Old 01-02-2006, 02:48 PM
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I don't think it's a baby immediately upon conception. At some point it is, but until then it's decision. And why do you assume it was either an informed decision or unprotected sex? No method of protection is perfect. A woman can be totally responsible and still get pregnant - there isn't a perfectly protected way to have sex. The woman has to bear the entire burden of this risk, and the man doesn't. He shouldn't be able to make a woman bear a baby just because it's his genetic material.
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Old 02-20-2006, 10:51 AM
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Abortion is MURDER
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