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View Poll Results: Should abortion be legal throughout the US?
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Yes, under any circumstances
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Yes, but not for late-term abortions
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Yes, but only in the case of rape or incest
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No, it should be decided by each state
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No, abortion should be illegal everywhere
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No opinion
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04-08-2006, 12:42 PM
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Machiavelli Incarnate
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Originally Posted by Joe_King
REGARDING: I don't think it's a baby immediately upon conception. At some point it is, but until then it's decision.
The point when it becomes a baby is the moment in time that initiates the start of the growth!
BEFORE THAT POINT: It never grows - it gets expelled from the womb!
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Agreed. I find the pro choice use of words like fetus, and embryo, and zygote in an attempt to dehumanize a human being on about the same level as racists who use words like ni**er, and coon in an attempt to dehumanize blacks.
Embryo, zygote, blastocyst, fetus, newborn, infant, teenager, adolescent, adult, old geezer etc., etc., etc., are nothing more than nouns that we use to describe a human being at some stage of his or her life. At the moment of conception, a zygote is exactly as human as you and I and no amount of growth or development is ever going to make them more human.
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10-29-2006, 09:58 AM
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Political Novice
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Abortion should be allowed only in the case of rape I believe and before the fetal pole is present (before a heart or any other distinguishing feature is formed) after that happens I think it's highly wrong.. and I also realise this is one touchy subject for many and some will agree and some will not.
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11-01-2006, 07:30 PM
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Why are there so many unadopted children in America?Men should refuse to have sex until they obtain a legal document giving them custody of any unwanted children that may arise.
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11-02-2006, 12:43 AM
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Originally Posted by sotmfs
Why are there so many unadopted children in America?Men should refuse to have sex until they obtain a legal document giving them custody of any unwanted children that may arise.
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So now it is all the men's fault? The women get off scot free?
My views on abortion are in the Is Abortion unConstitutional thread.
Shortened version. Allowed it only for rape, incest, or the safety of the mother. |
11-19-2006, 06:29 AM
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Political Guru
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The fact is too many abortions are happening under the current laws. There are kids to be adopted but just go ask how long it will be if you want a white infant. At least 2 years. It took my wife and I 8 years and a bunch of money to have our son. Unwanted pregnancies and Abortion are both cancers on our society. You can hide behind the arguments you made but rape/incest make up a tiny percentage of all abortions and how many medical workers have been harmed vs how many infants have been pulled apart limb from limb by so these called doctors because a high school girl didn't want to be pregnant.
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11-19-2006, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by seeker
The fact is too many abortions are happening under the current laws. There are kids to be adopted but just go ask how long it will be if you want a white infant. At least 2 years. It took my wife and I 8 years and a bunch of money to have our son. Unwanted pregnancies and Abortion are both cancers on our society. You can hide behind the arguments you made but rape/incest make up a tiny percentage of all abortions and how many medical workers have been harmed vs how many infants have been pulled apart limb from limb by so these called doctors because a high school girl didn't want to be pregnant.
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WHEN the 666,ooo,oooth abortion occurs the tower will fall;-(  |
11-19-2006, 12:56 PM
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Political Mastermind
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WARNING: Very Graphic Commentary
I am 100% PRO CHOICE!
FIRST REAL CHOICE: - waist band up
- waist band down
SECOND REAL CHOICE: - Sexually transmitted disease (like HIV and warts and nasty sores)
- abstinence (a safer choice for a decent spouse to select - we don't like tramp's for nothing but to use as a dump catcher)
(Graphic But Factual)
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11-19-2006, 09:51 PM
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Screw you brunette!
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Originally Posted by ARMANDO
WRONG, IF THE WOMEN MAKES A INFORMED DECISION TO HAVE UNPROTECTED SEX THAN SHE IS DE FACTO GIVING UP CONTROL OF HER BODY FOR THE NEXT 9 MONTHS IS SHE GETS PREGNANT. THE BABY CAN'T MAKE A DECISION BUT IF THE FATHER IS THERE AND WANTS HIS RIGHTS HE SHOULD BE ABLE TO SUPPORT HER THROUGH THE PREGNANCY AND HAVE THE BABY PRESENTED TO HIM. THIS IS FAR BETTER THAN THE WOMAN KILLING THE BABY BECAUSE SHE CHANGES HER MIND OR HAS A BLOND MOMENT  :  |
Hey- lay off the blond moment references!! Anyway, trust me there is a lot of pain my patients suffer through deciding to abort or not. But when you are 23+ weeks pregnant and find out that baby has no skull and no chance to survive, why let the baby suffer? The few that did, regretted it so much when their babies writhed in pain for days till they finally died. And tell me..how many of these "fathers" actually stick around w/their girlfriends and raise these normal, healthy babies?? Not many Papi.... |
11-20-2006, 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by NYC Viking
Hey- lay off the blond moment references!! Anyway, trust me there is a lot of pain my patients suffer through deciding to abort or not. But when you are 23+ weeks pregnant and find out that baby has no skull and no chance to survive, why let the baby suffer? The few that did, regretted it so much when their babies writhed in pain for days till they finally died. And tell me..how many of these "fathers" actually stick around w/their girlfriends and raise these normal, healthy babies?? Not many Papi....
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a baby has no skull?
Is that a NYC epidemic?
... or is that hearing 20 different stories about the same case?
Rest assured - that is NOT a typical situation.
MOST anti abortion people just want people to be responsible for their own choices like: - selectively picking a BREEDING mate that is ACTUALLY suitable (as in employable, financially and domestically responsible, and not a useless junkie)
- like being smart enough to know they are NOT in a position to raise a child - so intelligent use of BIRTH CONTROL is actually USED!
- ... or how about women learning that they are of more value than to reduce themselves to be JUST catchers of bull drippings.
Personally; in this day and age - I wish these pro abortion sex freaks get what they deserve ..... AIDS!
After all diseases like that are JUST part of PRO CHOICE!
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11-20-2006, 03:38 PM
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I have stayed away from the abortion threads, because as a male I will never have to have one. I am pro choice, but don't want to see abortion used as birth control. I took my sister and her husband 4 years ago to adopt a white baby. This baby is now 23 and married. If we want more babies adopted then we need to loosen the requirements so that good childless couples can afford to adopt. 
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