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Originally Posted by bloke next door
Happiness it is a double edged sword. On the one hand your toughen border offences on the other you justify a below average minimum wage. What does the second do for the future of workers in America when other businesses want cheap workers and so the cookie crumbles. As far as making it a felony to be an illegal that is strong but if the punishment is justifiable then thats ok. Does it mean that being convicted of a felony prevents you ever being allowed back and if so do you alow leniency for those that have family and so how do you determine a line that can't be crossed.
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America has put itself between a rock and a hard place.
We dont want to deal with poverty and lower standards of living. But we cant deny that certain jobs are just these kids of jobs- they are back-breaking, low-paying menial jobs. They are too menial for most Americans to even consider.
But which American will do these kinds of jobs when they can work at Mickey D's or study for a couple months and get a certification? Thats right- nobody.
Can we make dish-washing a job that pays reasonably well? Or lawn-mowing? Or produce-harvesting? Or meat-packing? Construction?
The only way you will get Americans to do these jobs is if you make them pay well, like we did to waste-collectors. Because you will never get Americans to accept poverty when they can fill in an application at McD's.
If you force these industries to hike wages the industry will fall apart- they will lose money and people will move onto more profitable industries and we will face a crisis.
I dont like the idea of depending on foreign workers, on losing our sense of self-sustenance and creating an underclass either, which is why we need a serious alternative. Perhaps providing incentives for Americans to work these jobs? We've done it for the Armed Services, so why not for these jobs?