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Originally Posted by Truthwrappedinlies
well im sure you know about the altria group and the carlysle group...that just bought dunkin donuts...*altria* thats what i mean..sure you can have "start up" $ you have to understand that the people that MADE currancy have always had power...and privilage..money in america wouldn't mean anything if the english didn't MAKE its value...an english dollar didn't mean anything to native american...today it does...and thats a point i'll get into further in this post..i bet the same people that started famous amos sold the company...*just a guess*
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I dont see where your going with this but if you wanted to you could open up a dunkin dounts. If you wanted you could by a franchisee liscense and your in business. And lets say you could not afford to do a new dunkin operation you could always buy into one. Also you could open up your own donut and coffee shop. Who knows you might be starting the nex dunkin dounts and maybee in 50 years you will be selling to alrtia for billions. Every big company never started big
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Originally Posted by Truthwrappedinlies
it also displaces the amount of money. this is how they do it..well one way they do it...when they sell "rare" coins ..and the "save this two dollar bill it will be worth way more in somethin somethin years...B.S. thats just to even out inflation rates. your buying money that WHEN originally put out cost nothing..the value is of no REAL substance..just created...by sentimental value...or being rare. and i can stand when people say ...well "its the last of its kind" humans are the "last" of their kind..there will never be another gix.
you gotta ask does simple smarts allow me to take a million american dollars and go to mexico and exchange my money for the peso..i'll be SOOO much richer right? ..well im SURE MOST companys have found this loophole...and thats what further displaces the poor. while the rich allready rich in america..can go over and basically take advantage of "the new kid on the block" i mean...if something cost 5 dollars or 7 dollars which one will you buy?
i allready know the answer...just driving home the point...funny thing about that i was just talking to this guy from india...and he said..he came to america to learn computers..and make money and send it home..his words:" if i want to buy a laptop back home it takes 5 months..here it takes 5 days....so i mean...simple math would tell you by the time you get that computer..in india 1 computer for 5 months..in 5 months in america you can buy 15 computers..." ADVANTAGE AMERICA...and this is how capitalism causes poverty. if you made baskets and i sold corn..we could make that an even playing field..but money destroys that equality..because unlike gross product as they do now...money is the constant displacer that they "assign value to" when 2 corn is equal to 1 basket money can make 1 corn equal to 1 basket...not a fair trade off.
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I kind of see where your goin with this. As far as the collectors peices. No one is forcing anyone to buy any of these things. people are a fickle bunch. Many like to collect other things aswell. Like beenie baby's, watches etc.
And as far as the class warfare you speek of. even before there was currancy and we had the barter system there was still Rich and Poor. There was someone who had more sheep then the other guy. There was somone who had a larger vineyard then the other. Do you see my point. Capitilsm is not the enemy. It's the mentality that captilism is bad that is the problem. You sir would not be standing on this earth if it wasn't for capitlism. There wouldn't be anything.
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Originally Posted by Truthwrappedinlies
well i believe thats some people pay for the mistakes of their parents...simple as that..if my grandma never worked or saved...my mother never did either...ive got zero money saved up for my college...now your parents could be doctors or lawyers...and saved up for your college..now you have ADVANTAGE..
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How do i have the advatage. I find it funny hat you excusse the poor financial decision your parents made. But you deminize the folks who's parents decided to save and live for tommorow and not today. How does someone who's parents saved up for there childrens college eductation vs a persons parents who lacked financial restraint. I know it's tuff out there and you know what you may have a tuffer time then the next guy. But i can almost guarentee you there is someone who has is tuffer then you. Atleast you see that there has to be change and you are trying to make a better life for yourself and for the generations to come.
I can justifying ritucling folks who's parents have set aside for the childrens education and such and there kids just throw it away. I would be more angry at that then the folks who go to school and get an eduction. Even though it is subsidized by there parents.
As for me i have everything i need(and no it does involve material things) I work so eventually when i do have kids that they will have a better life then i did just like my parents did for me. This is the progression i was talking about in my earlier post. The movement towards working for the best.
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good point...i believe that things are how they are suppose to be how they are..so we learn..*christian perspective* see even as a christian..i understand that me and a muslim can't be on the same page...but we can get along by all means... if my religion says kill 10 cats and yours says cats are sacred..we have conflict..and this is what its coming to between christians and muslims..both are being misrepresented and "tagged" on the news..like its truth. true islam is peace and true christianity is peace. good point about regression... which we *civilization* are currently in the state of. i mean yea we make advances...but where is the world really headed? you trying to tell me that homeland security can stop all bombs comin over the border...if you can do that..you sure as hell can stop cocaine and weed and whatever else it is..
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This is the topic of our day. And yes there is seriouse reprocution if america doesn't end up on top with this one. As far as regression yes there has been allitle bit of this when it comes to this subject. Thats because we are fighting a mentality that is backwards to begin with. But sometimes you need to take a step back to move forward
As far as reperation. My bloodline in this country started in the 70's when my parents moved heer from europe. Now what do we owe the descendants of the slaves. And why should we have to pay. This whole reperations thing is just an attempt to get money for nothing. I can understand if the slaves still lived but not now when atleast 4 generations have passed.
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mine too...about the same era my father is an immigrant. the thing is *refer back to native americans* their "reperations" are casino's ...see how long it took to consider it..i mean...the longer you stall the more "ethinically watered down" your bloodline can become..therefore you can't claim to be 'enough' indian to register to a tribe...or the longer you wait the less likely your tribe is "recognized" like me my mother is part narragansett indian...fbi doesn't recognize our tribe yet we have a reservation in RI...this causes not only division among different tribes but also those from your tribal council that will deny you just to have a higher percentage of profits from the casino.....that we have a power every second weekend of august...you see where im going with this? its like having multiple smoke screens with time periods...so when you finally see your way out the first one..the second "smoke screen" pops up...so you never get out...
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I see your point on this aswell. When it comes to the casino's though the government didn't have to spend money to build these casion's. Private business financed most of the casino's
But do you think you personally should have to pay for the reperations.