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Old 06-18-2008, 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by TakuanSoho View Post
Not much. Progressives believe in progress. Progress has a strange meaning to many people. In the 30's, as i said, progressives believed in forced sterilization of idiots because they believed it was "scientific". They supported Marxism for much the same reason. This is not my opinion, you can go back and read the arguments. There is a reason my Marx (and his followers) referred to his system as "scientific dialectic".

You cannot discount people who claim to be "progressives" by saying that they are not "true" progressives anymore than conservatives can discount the nasty things that conservatism has been used to defend.
Sure you can...

Anyone can call themselves anthing they like...doesnt make it so., and it is 100% legit to make the observation, so long as it can be backed up by example

Funny you should use the example of people who currently call themselves "Conservatives", when in fact thay do not resemble any such thing.

Illustrates my point exactly
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