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Originally Posted by PaleRider
Your entire spiel about property rights fails. Human beings are not property. We don't own ourselves and there is ample legal precedent to back that up. If you care to try it, however, attempt to sell a kidney (which you claim is your property) to someone who needs it and has the money to pay (you should have no trouble finding takers). You will find that not only can you not sell parts of your body, that you are also not the owner. Your legal status is that of a steward or a caretaker of the body. You can not, however, own a thing and be the same thing at the same time.
Another fatal flaw in your argument is that the right to live was never based on the ownership of property. The poorest sharecropper had the right to live even though he had no right to vote on issues that involved property rights. Your right to live is, and never was dependent upon anything more than you being a human being.
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Nice try, but you either missed or are obfuscating the point here. I NEVER said anything about the right to live resting on property ownership... I'm talking about rights in general. At the time of the writing of the constitution, what I have said is 100% accurate. It has to do with previously being the subjects of Lords and Kings. THEY owned your body, the land you lived on and the food you ate, so THEY had all the rights. It was VERY much a property rights issue at the founding.
It wasn't until the UCC (Uniform Commercial Code) which is NOT based on constitutional law, but commerce and maritime law, that we lost that bit of our sovereignty, which was absolutely granted to us by the founders.
I'm sorry if you have your head so far buried in the abortion issue that you haven't had time to properly research the circumstances surrounding our emancipation from the King, but these are FACTS.
You can run them around in circles all you want, it doesn't change that you are ignorant of the progression of law in this country. I was under the impression this was about the constitutionality of the right to live. Show me where in the Constitution it guarantees anyone the right to live. If you can, we can end all wars, abortions and capital punishment tomorrow. The best that can be dredged up is the "pursuit of life,...." And that is only in the Declaration of Independence.
Stick to the moral arguments, you will loose the Constitutional debate every time. Though I doubt you are capable of accepting that fact and will continue as you have... for how many years now?