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Originally Posted by mulp
Well, I can't get you to agree that if the embryo or fetus is a child it can be taken away from the woman who doesn't want, or can't care for it, so that someone else can give it the care that the woman who doesn't want it can.
Why would you demand that a crack addict be forced to keep the child when she is clearly abusing it for seven or maybe eight months, at which time the child says "I can't take it any more, and I'm going to leave even if I will die because this woman is just too abusive." Clearly the child should have taken responsibility for itself much earlier and chosen a different woman.
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A crack addict should be incarcerated anyway. Killing a child to save it from possible abuse is the sort of logic that only a shallow, hand wringing liberal could present and expect it to be accepted as reasonable.
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Or what of the woman who gets breast cancer and needs radiation and chemo - again you are going to demand that the woman keep the child even tho her medical care is going to really hurt the child.
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Who ever said that if a woman's life is in danger as a result of the pregnancy, she shouldn't be allowed to terminate said pregnancy? Your arguments become more weak all the time mulp. Soon, you are just going to be whining and blubbering.
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I can't understand why you think that a woman must be forced to keep a child that she is clearly abusing and is likely to in the end kill.
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Abuse is illegal. If she is abusing, then she should be punished. We don't go about killing children who are abused or likely to be abused, we deal with the parents. Your logic fails even at the most basic level.
[quote=mulp;439049]But maybe you don't think that the child is really a child that deserves the same kind of protection as other children.[/quopte]
Emotional bloviation untouched by rational thought. Do you really believe that it is reasonable to kill a child who may be or is being abused to prevent possible abuse in the future? Is that really the way your mind works?
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Then again, if you don't think that you have a moral responsibility to consume fewer resources so children won't die of starvation or war, then maybe you don't really care that much about whether children live or die????
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And that mewling appeal to emotion has exactly what to do with whether or not unborns at any stage of development are living human beings that have the same right to live as you?
Face it mulp, you have brought a butter knife to an intellecutal gun fight. You aren't up to this debate. You have not won a single point and now you are reduced to nothing more than a pitiful whining ad hominem attack on me based on nothing more than lies and slander you have fabricated about me from whole cloth since you know nothing about volunteer work I might or might not do within my own community or charities that I may or may not contribute to. Your whole argument has come down to a tearful, and entirely false, claim that I don't care about children while you stand there and, with a straight face, say that it is better to kill children who are, or may be abused to save them from abuse as if killing children for reasons amounting to no more than convenience didn't constitute the worst possible abuse.