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Old 05-30-2008, 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by TakuanSoho View Post
If people have a choice to belong or leave at will, then it isn't collectivism, it is cooperation.

In political philosophy "collectivism" refers to any philosophy or system that sees any kind of group (such as a class, nation, race, society, state, etc) as more important than the individual (from Wiki). Choice focuses on the individual.

Now fascism is most certainly "collectivism" it differs from socialism and communism on many different aspects, but not on how it views the individuals relationship with the state.
Irrespective of the "Wki" definition, the "collective" is not defined by groups anywhere near as limited as you and WIKI claim.
At least not in the vein in which we are speaking..or should be speaking if you truely want to make the comparison with Marxism

By the way,,,by that definition...you just declared right wing Republicans "collectivists"
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