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Old 05-29-2008, 05:39 PM
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Would you care to explain how the 400 million women using birth control pills, an IUD, morning after pills, implants, are not, in your view of the science, murdering human beings?
You are at least as stupid as lexi aren't you? When did I ever say that the women using birth control pills with abortifacient qualities, morning after pills, and IUD's are not either committing murder or manslaugher? Please bring forward a statement from me where I am denying it. In my view, they are either guilty of murder or manslaugher depending upon whether they knew about the abortifacient qualities of their particular means of birth control.


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You say, an embryo is a human being. Those birth control methods all terminate the life of the embryo. At any point in time, 400 million women proactively seek out these birth control methods so that they can terminate the life of the embryo. Therefore, they are all, in your view, premeditated murderers.
Either premeditated murder if they were aware of the abortifacient qualities of their birth control method or guilty of manslaugher if they weren't. Do you need for me to draw you a picture?

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What is the error in logic. Please point to the specific logical failure? Are you saying that an egg fertilized in the woman with a sperm is not an embryo? Are you saying that an embryo in a woman is not a human being? Are you saying that a woman acting to terminate the life of an embryo is not killing a human being? Are you saying only a small number of women are using birth control methods like the pill, implant, and IUD?
What in the hell are you talking about? The error in your logic is that you are suggesting that it is OK to kill unborns just because so many women do it. You keep repeating 400 million as if the number somehow changes them from living human beings into something that it is OK to kill.

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I get the feeling that you don't like the conclusion drawn from your facts and logics so you claim that there is a flaw in the reasoning, not because there is a logical flaw, but because you don't want to admit that billions of people actively and happily, in your view of the world, murder billions of human beings and see nothing wrong with it.
Even your feelings are flawed. I have no problem with the conclusions that I have reached.

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In fact, I bet you have used birth control pills, or an IUD, something similar, (either you personally or your partners) so you are a murder, but you don't want to condemn yourself as a serial killer.
You lose your bet. What was it and where do I collect. My wife and I had our children then I had a vasectomy and she had her tubes tied because neither of us wanted more children, even if we ever separated.
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