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Old 05-29-2008, 02:50 AM
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Originally Posted by PaleRider View Post
I have provided ample credible science that states explicitly that unborns at any stage of development are living human beings. You can make your fallacious flat earth argument until the proverbial cows come home but your credibility is lacking. The onus is now upon you to provide some credible science that states explicitly that the offspring of two human beings is at some point, something other than a lving human being. Credible science has been provided and only credible science will serve as a rebuttal.



Do feel free to provide some credible science to support that most childish argument. First you attempt to compare perfectly healthy unborns to those who are so sick or injured that they can't reasonably be expected to recover and now you are attempting to compare a human being to a plant. Your argument has failed mulp. Tuck your tail firmly between your legs and quietly disappear to avoid further embarassment. Your arguments are the same old pro choice logical fallacies that have been losing all along.



Typical flat earther. Being shown credible science that states explicitly that you are wrong isn't enough. Now you want to see a machine. Do you realize how stupid that argument is? I am sure that at some point, we will be able to support an unborn from fertilization to delivery in an artifical environment. But nothing will change. The unborn is what it is. If we can support them in an artificial environment, they will still be the same creature they would be if they were in a woman's body. The only difference would be the environment in which they grew. You don't become a different creature because of your envionment. If you accept that a child who grew in an artifical environment is a human being at every stage but the exact same child who grows in a woman's body is not, then your argument has successfully failed on every level.
Name one human being born from a petri dish, or some machine.

One the other hand, if it is your position that society has the right to demand that a woman support another human being by forcing her to carry it around agains her will, force her to let that human being suck life from her, force her to risk her health and risk death, then I want society to force you to pay my rent and buy my food for me. After all, I'm a human being and thus I deserve the same right as an embryo to make you and others my slaves serving my needs, even if it is against your will.

And like I said, a billion women and like billions of men, do not see embryos as human beings, and so they, in your view, murder a billion human beings a year, and think nothing of it, something that makes it clear they don't see embryos as human beings.
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