Come on people..
Review some of the above posts..
Get up to speed here..
Try not to be so contradictory, and try to remember that the media
( PROPAGANDA)
influences less sophisticated people.
REALIZE that if you repeat the shallow ploys aimed at shallow people
( the world over)-
You, too, will be marginalized.

You say some people need to be led..
and then PROVE that America is full of such types.

There is a history before your birth.
YOUR world is only possible because of better people who
came before all of us.
Now, the discussion among us citizens must be had,
but you all need to get more background.
I have mentioned authors and books.
Anyone care to comment?
The recent books and commentary support our positions..
How do you sidestep the facts of our allegations?
All of the 'progressive' attacks are
insinuations and mirrors of enemy smears;
THAT should give you all reason to hesitate
from expressing like street rabble.

Have any here heard of a book called
"This kind of War." by Fehrenbach.
It is required reading ( or was ) by US military officers
about the Korean War.
Fehrenbach makes many points about American warfighting;
the changes in our nation since WWII;
and the nature and tactics of the limited wars the Soviet
communists ( and they ARE real) choose to fight against us.

Do you know that communist accusations of torture and
abuse in POW camps THEN mirror propaganda
attacks NOW?
THAT alone should temper your public remarks
attacking YOUR OWN NATION!

Have you ever read the speeches of OUR leaders?
NOT the media mouthpieces.
When Limbaugh's show replays the remarks of our elected leaders
( and he does actually let us hear their words)
and then comments on them..
I go and examine the records...
When the AirAmerica crowd recount statements, you DON'T
get verbatim .. you get THEIR spin..
Go read Pres Clinton's speech vz Desert Fox
( and THAT name is ridiculous )
THEN read his remarks after the FIRST WTC bombing.
Then find the statements of our enemies.
They are very clear in their aims and desires.
We are mealy-mouthed and appeasing in our public statements.

Please try to keep in perspective..
Even though you are socialists mouthing demoralizing
propaganda that weakens your fellow citizens;
Our enemies
ARE REAL and must be fought
on THEIR battlefield.

If you won't do the heavy lifting..
stop criticizing those who can.
MTC