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Originally Posted by NAT
Care to show where your creator deity is even mentioned in the Constitution, please?
Our rights come from "We the People".
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That is an old lame and uneducated arguement. Anyone knows a god or creator is not in the constitution. Once they tried to put it in after the fact but it was voted down because of a firm belief that it was not needed because it was well known that the belief and reasons for such beliefs was well known and established. The declaration of independance and many records of founding fathers more than prove the reason they and others felt American citazens should be gauranteed certain rights. Now you don't have to believe in god to understand why they did as they did. And putting down or denying god exist will not change what they believed or why they did as they did. If not for their belief in god we might not have the declaration of independance nor the bill of rights. That is a fact, and as far as who gives us those rights well hell man does but based on what reasoning is the question. And the answer as far as the United States is the belief in god. As far as what is right or wrong or moral or imoral well that depends on the people and the time in history as to what is acceptable to society or is not. In fact there is no true right or wrong we make those assumptions then enforce them as moral law..
As far as religion well it is my own personal belief that it began because it was the only way man could explain his enviorment and existance and mortality etc. As man got smarter religion changed to suit man and abused by many as to control the masses. Just my opinion but in the case of the vikings it is a fact. Now many bad things have been done in the name of religion but many good things have came from it also. As far as morals well they are nothing more than rules for a socialized society to live by to co-exist as peaceably as possable and they are of great use and important. As far as the example you used well it was stupid and had nothing to do with morals or lack their of. The chick had no guts to stand up for what she believed and you did. She then put you down for doing what inside she herself wanted too but did not have the backbone to do. hmmmmmmmm I think the moral thing in question is honesty something she does not have good or bad.