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Old 05-21-2008, 11:30 AM
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Quotes are unsuited for this arguement for a number of reasons. Quotes can be taken out of context, mangled and snipped past all recognition, or, as I have found many times during such a debate, manufactured and/or merely attributed to a particular person. And those that are accurate and sourced reflect that person's personal opinions.

And this isn't mentioning the protracted "Quote Wars" that result, since quotes can be found to suit anyone's views.

What is important is the document that they created, a secular document that guarantees our rights by law, and also protects our religious equality and freedom by keeping the institution of religion, and the institution of government, seperated.
Sure quotes can be taken out of context, but it is pretty clear that many of the Founders did view rights coming from some higher authority, whether you want to believe it or not.

I don't misattribute quotes to people, but I often catch others doing so. Most of the time it is from people from the far left that say religion had no role in the founding of this nation - which is utterly ridiculous to even suggest.

None of what you said has anything to do with the fact that many of the Founders did say that rights came from a higher authority. It doesn't matter if you or I or anyone else believes that, it doesn't change what the author's of the Constitution thought.

He asked the question where rights come from and I gave an answer based on what our Founding Fathers had said.
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