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Originally Posted by Virgil Kaine
Basically I'm asking, do people have any expectation of how they should be treated here on earth? Where does this expectation come from? Is there a right and a wrong. Who decides which is which?
Are Your Rights GIVEN to you by your government? OR Are Rights inalienable? GIVEN to you by God?
Is it not so that with one you owe the very air you breathe to whim and the good grace of the government? That the government is the ultimate authority?
Is it also not so that with God given rights your government has to at least try not to violate your rights?
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According to a few of the Founders the rights came from God.
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Originally Posted by NAT
Prove your god exsits first, then we can consider that portion of your arguement.
It is the common consensus of the people that provide what constitutes "rights".
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He didn't make an argument, he asked questions.
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Originally Posted by Suburbanite
Our constitution grants us a shit load of rights in a legal sense, though if you think those rights are inalienable you're full of it
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Do you even know what inalienable means?
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Originally Posted by Suburbanite
an equally ridiculous assertion. humans don't come with something called rights when they are born, this is a concept created by idiots who thought the idea might save their sorry asses from something down the line. But it won't. Thats why we have the 2nd amendment, so that we may insist upon the other amendments.
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That isn't why we have the second amendment.
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Originally Posted by NAT
Care to show where your creator deity is even mentioned in the Constitution, please?
Our rights come from "We the People".
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Again, according to quotes be the Founders the rights came from God. You can disagree with them, the people who wrote the Constitution, if you want.