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Old 05-18-2008, 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Virgil Kaine View Post
Let me first say that illegal aliens are not here to work. Some of them do. Of those a good proportion of their wages go out of the country, never to help out our domestic economy again. Plus as a bonus this money will help pay to bring more.

Criminal aliens (as I think they should be called) while maybe looking to become a citizen, for the perks, do not want to assimilate. They do not plan to change their language, and more importantly don’t plan on changing their allegiance from what ever place they came from. They intend on demanding that WE change to suit them.

Let’s look at the problems.

The pro-illegal alien lobby has a LOT of money and can hire PR people to spin anything any way, there are myths and lies that the public has both willingly and mistakenly started to promote. The FACTS are:

1. It is NOT racist to call these people "illegal aliens" In fact; "illegal aliens" is the only term used in federal laws and regulations to describe criminals who come into our country illegally. I prefer Criminal aliens.

2. Mexico is NOT a poor country. By sending its teeming masses to our country, that status keeps on rising. Mexico has more resources per square mile than the U.S. and plenty of money to take care of its own people. Why should the taxpayers of this country subsidize Mexico's corruption?

3. Illegal aliens are NOT necessarily coming here to work. 33 percent of our prison population is now comprised of non-citizens. Plus, 36 to 42 percent of illegal aliens are illegally on welfare. So, for a good proportion of these people, the American dream is crime and welfare, not coming here to work.

4. Illegal aliens are NOT doing work Americans won't do. What jobs won't Americans do? In most states, Americans still clean their own houses, do their own landscaping, clean hotel rooms, work in restaurants and fast food places, paint houses, DO CONSTRUCTION WORK, work in airports, etc. - just like we have the past 200 years before "our" government allowed these people to invade our country. There are 18 million Americans who cannot find a job, so illegal aliens who are coming here to work do so at peril to American workers.

5. Illegal aliens absolutely do not contribute more than they cost. Certainly the millions in prison and on welfare aren't contributing a dime to our economy, and the ones who are working often are paid in cash with no deductions for taxes at all. The ones who use fraudulent social security numbers and qualify to pay taxes and social security have so many deductions for dependents that they pay little if any taxes. We have seen them pay less than $100 in taxes and get back $4,000 refunds (thanks to earned income tax credits and multiple dependents).Some bargain, eh?

6. The economy does NOT depend on illegal aliens. Sure, greedy CEOs (making $50 to $150 MILLION a year) and business owners depend on illegal aliens, but due to #3, #4 and #5 above, the only thing illegal aliens are contributing to is the collapse of our economy and making the rich richer.

7. Without illegal aliens, the price of agricultural products and other goods and services will NOT soar. The definitive study on this subject is the University of Iowa's "How Much Is That Tomato?" The study concludes that 'since labor is such a small component of the end-price of agricultural products (which includes price to the growers, transportation costs, processing /storage costs, grocers' profit, etc.), using minimum wage workers instead of illegal aliens would increase prices of agricultural products by approximately 3 percent in the summer and 4 percent in the winter ... hardly the making of $10 heads of lettuce, $25 hamburgers, $1,000 per night Days Inn hotel rooms like the pro-illegal alien lobby claims.

8. Consumers are NOT benefiting from lower labor costs. Again, it's CEOs and business owners who benefit from taxpayer subsidies for their illegal alien workers. The Big Three automakers say they moved so many jobs to Mexico because their labor costs are 80 percent less than in America. Anybody notice the price of new cars spiraling downward under NAFTA?

Let's get a grip. I know some of you at AWE will disagree with my stance on this issue. The facts are however, 87% of Americans do not want amnesty, want closed borders and want employers who hire Criminal Aliens punished. Yet the federal government time and time again try to pass amnesty bills through the back door and secretly.Who are they working for?

A good part of this post was taken from the article, Myths and lies of illegal immigration by Kathy McKee published January 4, 2004 in The Sonoran News andTHE AMERICAN RESISTANCE FOUNDATION, founded by D.A. King - a coalition of immigration crime fighters opposing illegal and undocumented immigration, founded by D.A. King
As was pointed out, this post was taken from an article that absolutely debunks the myths and lies of illegal immigration. What can't be over emphasized, however, is the responsibility that the employers of illegals bear in this illegal Mexican invasion. These unscrupulous employers of illegals have been allowed to convey the message 'if you come illegally we will hire you'. The illegals have done just that and the employers of illegals, of course, hired them. You can bash illegals all you want but the only way to EVER stop this illegal Mexican invasion is to FORCE the unscrupulous employers of illegals to stop hiring illegals. The new tough on illegals/tough on the employers of illegals laws do just that. By requiring MANDATORY e-verification of the legal status of an employee and REMOVING the business license of repeat offender employers of illegals, which forced these unscrupulous employers of illegals to actually fire their illegals, removing the jobs magnet, or suffer the consequences, Arizona and Oklahoma engineered a mass exodus of illegals from those two states. All this at very little cost to the American taxpayers.
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