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Old 05-15-2008, 12:33 PM
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Incorrect. The postal service is self-funded, which is awesome, don't get me wrong, but it does NOT seek to make profit, nor is it allowed to. No one, not even the post-master-general gets richer if the post-office is more used, that individuals salary is subject to increase only be congressional aproval.

Well yes, obviously no one is suggesting that Dick Gephardt or Nancy Pelosi be allowed into the room during your colonoscopy, but that doesn't change the fact that a single-payer system would actually cover anyone instead of the illusion of coverage we have now.

The politicians would only be responsible for keeping public money in trust for the purpose, and, naturally, disclosing the expenditure of every penny so we'd actually KNOW how much goes into research, instead of the current system where advertising boner pills is erroniously counted as such.



Not true. Politicians have political reprisal to fear. If they mismanage a service they get voted out or recalled or impeached. How we abbandoned the idea of holding politicians to a more efficient standard instead of making a blanket decleration that they couldn't be efficient is beyond me.



Ah that old conservative saw. It's all mean ol' nasty taxations fault. Taxes do not comprise the majority of airline expense by a long shot, and eliminating them wouldn't free up even a fraction of the funds needed to make travel both comfortable and feasible. When you consider the corporate wellfare handouts that have kept the giants afloat as long as they have, they pretty much haven't actually PAID any taxes in years.



I agree, yet you would rob poor children's parents of the choice to go to prohibatively expensive schools with higher-paid teachers in nicer neighborhoods. This is one of those examples where corporate choice is a false choice.
Incorrect. The postal service is self-funded, which is awesome, don't get me wrong, but it does NOT seek to make profit
The Postal Reorganization Act signed by President Richard Nixon on August 12, 1970, replaced the cabinet-level Post Office Department with the independent United States Postal Service. The Act took effect on July 1, 1971.

The USPS is the third-largest employer in the United States (after the United States Department of Defense and Wal-Mart) and operates the largest civilian vehicle fleet in the world, with an estimated 260,000 vehicles, the majority of which are the easily identified Grumman LLV "mail truck".
If the USPS did not make a profit, it would not be able to provide employee benefits and pay.

Taxes do not comprise the majority of airline expense by a long shot
By a long shot, fuel is the airlines biggest expense and the Federal Govt. taxes their fuel.

Not true. Politicians have political reprisal to fear. If they mismanage a service they get voted out or recalled or impeached. How we abbandoned the idea of holding politicians to a more efficient standard instead of making a blanket decleration that they couldn't be efficient is beyond me.
Only if the media tells you about this mismanagement, otherwise, no one gets voted out of office for mismanagement.
The politicians would only be responsible for keeping public money in trust for the purpose, and, naturally, disclosing the expenditure of every penny so we'd actually KNOW how much goes into research, instead of the current system where advertising boner pills is erroniously counted as such.

Like the Social Security trust fund that does not exist?
Social Security has been a complete disaster because Politicians stole the money. There is no reason to trust any Politician with anyone's money.
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