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Originally Posted by jayded
i just can't buy that...maybe it's cause i work every day with people attempting to recover from mental illness. Would make my job just completely trivial if I did buy that statement I guess. Anyhow, there is always hope, it's just not always visible. When you're suffering sometimes it's hard to see the forest for the trees. i have wrestled knives away from people's throats, stayed up all night with people who wanted to hang themselves to 'spread the love of God throughout His chosen people'...and those are just a few examples. If people are willing to try and recover, to reach out and attempt to climb out of their holes, other people will reach back. And yeah, people DO often reach a point where they think there is no help. But that's just called being in 'crisis' it's not a normal or consistent state for anyone. The only real reason i can see for suicide -preferably assisted- would be for terminally ill people who are suffering, otherwise it's just a waste of human life
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don't get me wrong. I'm a psyc major and believe that therapy can be very helpful to many people.
but I don't think life is some indespensible, unequivical thing that everyone can enjoy if they only try.
hence why I support the idea of people waiting for years before killing themselves. the idea has to be consistent.
I do kinda have an issue with the idea of 'hopeless' or 'helpless'. I think someone whose life looks great (decent money, promising future, ect) could want to committ suicide because they simply don't feel life is worth the trouble. in basic terms, the positive parts of life aren't worth the work or the negative parts. (I did mention one such case)
it seems very weird to anyone else why someone with a "good" life wouldn't care enough to keep working, keep living. but I do think its entirely possible. we all value different things, and place different amounts of value on things.
do you value life?
how much do you value life?
when would you change your views?
(many would say Yes, A lot, and until serious illness sets in- but some would say something completly different.)
I guess I jsut take issue the unchallenged idea that life is something everyone should desire. and if you don't, you just need someone to help you (or fix you).