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Old 05-06-2008, 03:05 PM
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The recordings reveal that the FBI changed the original plan and
told Mr. Salem NOT to use the fake explosives but to use REAL
explosives. The FBI agent who told him to use real explosives was
adamant about this. I saw and heard this on CNN in '93 and could not
believe my eyes and ears, I thought, "We'll never hear the end of
this." Boy was I wrong, it totally disappeared. Alas, there is
an excerpt of some of this that was printed in The New York
Times (10/28/93) available at: 404 - Not Found

While these recordings were played in preliminary court hearings,
they were barred from the actual trial because Mr. Salem made them
without the permission of the FBI agents. The govt can bug you without
your permission, but the opposite is not also true -- that's tyranny.
The tapes exist, and they prove that the FBI de facto orchestrated the
bombing of the World Trade Center, an act that would result in massive
new police powers for the FBI. However, because the tapes were barred
from court, the media simply pretends they don't exist and the truth
is forever nullified from the official GovtMedia story, exiled to
the dark allies of seedy conspiracy theory.

They say that tens of thousands would have died if the truck-bomb
had been able to park in the spot the bombers had reserved, right
next to a key column, but when they got there a car had taken their
spot. I'd like to think someone knew about this and parked the car
there to saves the lives of thousands of people.


CONSPIRACY THEORY 4: The FBI fabricated
evidence in the Oklahoma bombing investigation.

FACT: Associated Press 04/10/96 reports that (emphasis added):

Prosecutors agreed to turn over letters from FBI
agent Frederic Whitehurts, who tested Mr. McVeigh's
cloths for traces of explosives. Mr. Whitehurst has
claimed that investigators FAKED evidence in the
bombing case. ^^^^^


CONSPIRACY THEORY 5: The Govt was both involved in the April 19,
1993 Oklahoma City bombing and had foreknowledge of it, and both
the govt and the media are covering this up.

FACT 1: Former Grand Juror Hoppy Heidelberg, in charge of evidence in the
Oklahoma City bombing case, told the press that, "No one who saw McVeigh
with other suspects [ such as John Doe #2 ], was ever allowed to testify
before the Federal Grand Jury." Mr. Heidelberg was eventually thrown off
the jury after he refused to stop asking questions about John Doe 2.
His review of the best available evidence lead him to conclude,
as was reported in both the USA Today (10/19/95) and the AP:

"I think they [the govt] know who John Doe 2 is,
and they are protecting him. This is because John
Doe 2 was either a government agent or a government
informant. Either way they [the govt] had... prior
knowledge to the bombing and that's what they
can't afford to come out."

After this single report in the media, Mr. Heidelburg's story is for all
intents and purposes gone with the wind -- no long part of the picture.

FACT 2: The Portland newspaper the OREGONIAN (4/20/95), states that
Judge Wayne Alley, whose office sits across from the Murrah building,
was warned several days prior to the blast by "security specialists"
to take "special precautions." This story never resurfaced.

FACT 3: The USA Today (4/20/95) reported that Harvy Weathers, of the
Oklahoma City Fire Department, said that the fire dept. had received
a call from the FBI prior to the bombing stating that there would be
"some people entering the city over the weekend." Weathers did not
explain what this meant, but obviously an army of FBI were to enter
the city after the bombing later the next week. "Over the weekend"
would have been a few days before the bombing. Then consider that:

FACT 4: Oklahoma State Representative Charles Key says that he knows
of two witnesses who overheard ATF employees state that they were warned
not to come to work that day, indeed, even as the ATF was the supposed
target of the bombing, no ATF agents were killed, and few if any showed
up for work that day. Representative Key also points out that bomb squad
employees were seen in front of the building at 7:15 am, about two hours
prior to the blast. Rep. Key has conducted his own investigation and
was so shocked with the evidence he uncovered, he compiled it into a
video presentation, to be found at a site also promoting the bible:
http://teaminfinity.com/ookkcc.html

FACT 5: As reported by the Associated Press, the McVeigh defense
team is in possession of a tape of a call made by the FBI to Oklahoma
City officials warning of a possible terrorist event in the next few
days made several days prior to the blast.

FACT 6: As reported widely on CNN and TV stations across the nation,
up to four primed bombs were found and defused inside what remained of
the Murrah Center Federal Building on April 19, 1995. I have much of
this on tape. How could bombs have been placed inside a large govt
building without inside govt connections ?

FACT 7: According to CNN, the bombs were found by bomb sniffing dogs.
The ATF later said they were dummy bombs used for bomb training in the
busy downtown office building. If true, then, containing no explosives,
explosives detecting dogs would not had tracked them down as they did,
nor would munitions technicians have spent so much time defusing them
as they did, for, training bombs are always clearly labeled as such.
The ATF's "dummy bomb" story, is at odds with the facts.

FACT 8: KFOR-TV in Oklahoma City reported on the 19th that two or more
of the bombs found inside were "far larger in magnitude than the fist
that went off INSIDE the building" (seismic recorders at two locations
both recorded TWO blasts). A terrorist expert, Dr. Randall Heather, on
KFOR-TV said, "We have both of the bombs that were defused at the site
and they are being taken apart." The news coverage went on to say that
another bomb was found strapped to a column next to the day-care center.
Up to four unexploded bombs where found inside by the end of the day.

FACT 9: Brigadier General Partin (USAF, Air Force Armament Technology
Laboratory, ret.), one of the top munitions experts in the world, says
that blast damage patterns are NOT consistent with an ANFO truck bomb.
He says that demolition charges had to be placed on the columns, and
sure enough, one was found attached to a column that failed to go off.
Important excerpts of Partin's report along with many photographs
may be found at (very large page, select no graphics for speed):
http://www.tncnet.com/~rsears/oak/explode.html

FACT 10: According to the publication Veritas (5/9/95), bomb technicians
inside the building on the 19th who were finding the unexploded bombs
inside the building were heard to say over police radio:

First voice: Boy your not going to believe this!
Second voice: Believe what?
First voice: I can't believe it... this is a military bomb!

At http://www.erols.com/igoddard/okbook.htm you can find an order form
for a book written by Michele Marie Moore, an investigator in Oklahoma City
who recorded hundreds of hours of local TV, Police, Fire and EMT broadcasts
that reveal the shocking untold truth about what really happened in OK City.
The result of the bombing was that the police forces of the federal govt
were given massive new powers granted by the "Anti-terrorist Bill" signed
at a large White House ceremony exactly one year after the OK bombing.

You can also purchase the book "OKBOMB, Conspiracy and Cover-up," from
A-albionic Research, P.O. Box 20273, Ferndale, MI 48220, for $18.80.

Recommended Waco fact reference: "The Davidian Massacre." $9.00 book rate,
or $11.00 first class. Mail to: Carol Moore, Box 65518, Washington, D.C.
20035. Disclaimer: I'm not making any money off the sale of these books.

The above listing of facts is but a drop in the bucket of all facts
that support and/or prove conspiracy on the part of the govt in only
the few cases cited above. Needless to say there are many other cases
with significant evidence to suggest govt conspiracy, such as the
assassinations of President John F. Kennedy and civil rights leader
Martin Luther King, the Jonestown atrocity, the running of drugs,...
All largely or entirely censored by the major media, except as the
stories are breaking, prior to an organized effort to suppress.

A society whose citizens refuse to see and investigate the facts, who
refuse to believe that their govt and their media will routinely lie to
them and fabricate a reality contrary to verifiable facts, is a society
that chooses and deserves the Police State Dictatorship it's going to get.
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