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Originally Posted by itsplayed
Going by your theory then, who or what created the creator?
It would seem to me that your cause/effect scenario would be stuck in a loop cycle mode in which nothing ever really began, because nothing "just happens". Therefore, your cause/effect theory must also include the "creator" itself.
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God the creator is "eternal", having no beginning no ending, and everything that is, was, or will be, therefore must exist within Him. The cause and effect law of physics affects only physical reality, not spiritual. God is transcendent to this physical universe, just as described in the scriptures. Thus, clearly the Universe is a product of "creation", because physical science concludes that it (the universe) is not eternal. It had a beginning (the big bang), it is ever expanding and expending energy under the second law of thermodynamics and will reach a state of equilibrium, thus having exhausted such energy...it will have an ending. And it cannot possibly "regenerate" this energy after the fact of exhausting it. Thus the theory that it will simply "implode" and start all over again, denies the very real physical law of thermodynamics in the fact that once expended there is NO other source to draw upon to create another big bang, for indeed at some point a total state of "equilibrium" must exist. Therefore there can be no reality to the conceptual idea of "recycled" energy....there is no such animal. That would be like telling me that if I threw a baseball as hard as I could....at some point in the future it will inversely return to me with the same amount of force....do you believe that?
Cause and effect is no "scenario"...it is PHYSICAL LAW. Physical law that does not bend to theorized conceptual ideas. If the second law of thermodynamics is proven as a physical reality, and it has been done so in experiment after experiment thus establishing "empirical" proof, then the theory of the universe as a product of self gestation is only a projected theorized "hoax". For indeed, How can anything create itself...before it exists? This is always the case with pseudo intelligence it always ends in, or should I say, BEGINS with a clear paradox to all logical thought. BD