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Old 05-03-2008, 06:58 AM
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Though sadly they take it seriously....that's the sad part.
I agree. And if Bush wasn't such a blatant dumbass, he would be suspect number one.

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I'm sorry the conditions that created WWII was a hell of a lot more complex than that. A lot of it had to do with unresolved issues of WWI. Talk about the conditions that created WWI & you will see what pin headed pricks are really about. It was the pig headed arrogance & determination to go to war with the Serbs by the Austrians that set in motion a domino effect that has reverberated to this day. Ironically if one takes the time to study the history of those events one can see precisely my point about being an adult vs. being a closed minded hell bent on subjugation prick that the Austrians where at that time..
You are just trying to state appeasement in a different way. I'm afraid that is a long & complicated discussion that has no bearing on what you are attempting to justify.
Don't get me wrong here, I agree that leaders should be adults, and discuss issues for the betterment of everyone involved. I fully support Jimmy talking to Hamas. I think it was an awesome thing, and should be continued in the future. But history has shown us, that strong caution is advised. My point is that I am not sure that Obama can handle such a responsibility. He's young and inexperienced. If he had more time in the senate.... scratch that... if he had spent his time better in the senate, I might feel better. Perhaps on certain committees - ones that actually accomplished something... I may have better faith in him. I just don't.

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Ya & I would ask the same question of China personally. Tibet was a sovereign nation when it was occupied by the Chinese & it is still unresolved. Honestly most of the world has no balls to confront China head on with this because of all their fear of losing economic ties. Ironically the only country that has the balls to allow it's people to protest is France. No I think this also is far more complicated then you seem to understand. It may require a more in depth discourse. This is regardless of what Obama has said, I have not heard nor do I care. I do know that China is one insecure totalitarian State that has lost its soul in many ways & they lead directly to the issue of Tibet. I happen to know a bit of history on China Taoism & Tibetan Buddhism & I've been there. Seven cities to be exact. I could taste the vacuum. I actually have some funny stories...but this is for another time.
The problem... the Olympics isn't the place for such a statement. The olympics are a place of show... people coming together to prove their worthiness through physical strenghth - not war... So, if Obama is against the idea of war, why protest the Olympics? I too, agree that the Chinese government is horrible, but this just isn't the time, nor place to discuss it. It's rude. They are a society based in ceromony and rich in culture, they will take offence.

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His friends...you mean the ones that are positioned to make you only think & see the worst? Do you ever take the time to pay attention to the agendas of the shit that's thrown out there?
I look at everything form all sides. I have said on many threads, that I even agree with many of the things that Wright said... The problem is Wright's message of seperation that I don't like. Black this, black that. I don't think race issues will ever be solved until everyone is looked at as equals. The longer we divide ourselves - well, the longer we will stay divided. It's pretty simple. That's not the world I want to leave to behind to my kids.

Aside from that, regardless of who's giving the message, or why, the message is pretty clear and these people remain the same. They are who they are. By their own admittance.


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Well if you were dating from only sound bites I would be concerned about your love life anyway....
That's funny, and a good point.... Wright had a chance to clear up those sound bites and instead reaffirmed his message of hate. So, so much for 'sound bites'.

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How could he fix the entire state? He is one of MANY representatives there. Sorry that makes no sense. Please think that through....
so, by your logic, how could he fix the entire country? If he can't manage to unite the leaders of one state, how do you propose he will do so with forty-nine others?
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